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Redx wrote:

juniorsworld wrote:

Redx wrote:

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Redx wrote: Learn 2 read brah.

I said “suggests” and freezing does generally occur on the molecular lvl anyways seeings how thats what freezing generally does. When water is frozen it’s molecules are also frozen hence why it’s not longer a liquid.



Molecules freeze? Good one, bro.

Anyhow, suggest all you want, but keep it that way, and don’t go making up stuff that’s not in the manga lol.

I’ve never stated anything that couldn’t be discerned from on panel evidence.

Dude.....what?

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/liquids/freeze.html

Do molecules not slow down to become solid when they freeze? You learn that kind of stuff in 5th grade bro lol.

Edit: An even better site

http://www.middleschoolchemistry.com/lessonplans/chapter2/lesson4



What you showed me wasn’t molecules freezing, it was molecules slowing down thanks to the loss of Kinetic Energy. Molecules don’t freeze in the real world, in liquids. They just change shape to become more crystalline. =/

Thats essentially what freezing is though. Molecules slowing down. Which was my point :T



So molecules don’t freeze, they slow down.


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juniorsworld wrote:

Redx wrote:

juniorsworld wrote:

Redx wrote:

juniorsworld wrote:

Redx wrote: Learn 2 read brah.

I said “suggests” and freezing does generally occur on the molecular lvl anyways seeings how thats what freezing generally does. When water is frozen it’s molecules are also frozen hence why it’s not longer a liquid.



Molecules freeze? Good one, bro.

Anyhow, suggest all you want, but keep it that way, and don’t go making up stuff that’s not in the manga lol.

I’ve never stated anything that couldn’t be discerned from on panel evidence.

Dude.....what?

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/liquids/freeze.html

Do molecules not slow down to become solid when they freeze? You learn that kind of stuff in 5th grade bro lol.

Edit: An even better site

http://www.middleschoolchemistry.com/lessonplans/chapter2/lesson4



What you showed me wasn’t molecules freezing, it was molecules slowing down thanks to the loss of Kinetic Energy. Molecules don’t freeze in the real world, in liquids. They just change shape to become more crystalline. =/

Thats essentially what freezing is though. Molecules slowing down. Which was my point :T



So molecules don’t freeze, they slow down.

Freezing=molecules slowing down :I


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>Enters threads.
>Sees Red and Junior in another lovers' quarrel.
>Leaves.

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Raniero wrote: >Enters threads.
>Sees Red and Junior in another lovers' quarrel.
>Leaves.



You’re lucky Stardust isn’t here.


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Raniero wrote: >Enters threads.
>Sees Red and Junior in another lovers' quarrel.
>Leaves.

Shiro is Red’s bitch you daydreaming faggot


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Raniero wrote: >Enters threads.
>Sees Red and Junior in another lovers' quarrel.
>Leaves.

Goddammit...


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Just gonna keep this here so I know where it is when I need it.

Redx wrote: One Piece guns and weaponry just look like 15th century weaponry but they are far more advanced. Hence why Van Auger’s rifle is capable of shooting down a group of seagulls from an island so far away the strawhats couldn’t even see the island he was shooting from. It’s why mere canons from a war ship are capable of causing explosions the size of multiple city blocks. Again, the weapons are only made to look the part so as to fit the pirate theme of the series. The power of said weaponry is in a whole other league compared to what we used irl.


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@Redx: I agree they are more powerful (the guns) then they seem and more powerful than some guns irl. But there are guns that are superior in RL than OP guns just saying homie.


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Doubtful. But I don’t recall Oda ever mentioning something like this (or showing it). It seems like that it depends on the individual. But an individual with strong haki can affect many weaker people. But many weaker people can’t put their together to harm a strong individual. It would be like 1 million weaklings with Haki vs Shanks. Considering its shonen I don’t think Haki can work both ways in this regard.



The strongest person Pre-Timeskip Luffy knocked out was Mr. 3, even if briefly. I remains to be seen if a stronger individual can be knocked out. I think maybe if they focused their Haki on one person rather than a large group of individuals, it may work but for now we don’t know.



Thanks that’s what I was trying to say.


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Tornado The Dragon - a.k.a Big Brother wrote: @Redx: I agree they are more powerful (the guns) then they seem and more powerful than some guns irl. But there are guns that are superior in RL than OP guns just saying homie.

True but then again OP characters have Haki which even at the fodder lvl Haki can make mere arrows>>>>>>>>>>>>Bullets.


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I know most of us already knew this but I’d thought I’d point out Luffy’s increase in strength.

Pre timeskip Luffy required a Gear 3rd rifle which is>>>>>>>>a Gear 3rd pistol just to one-shot a giant.



Post skip Luffy only requires an ordinary jet pistol to knock out a giant.



In summary Luffy basic attacks post skip are in a whole other realm compared to his strongest moves pre timeskip.


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Redx wrote:

Tornado The Dragon - a.k.a Big Brother wrote: @Redx: I agree they are more powerful (the guns) then they seem and more powerful than some guns irl. But there are guns that are superior in RL than OP guns just saying homie.

True but then again OP characters have Haki which even at the fodder lvl Haki can make mere arrows>>>>>>>>>>>>Bullets.



True haki enhancement is a wonderful thing.

And besides normal handgun bullets are a bit below mach 1 (on average). But don’t we usually see in OP weaponry being used as a tool or distraction, or used only in the beginning of battle. I mean we have legendary swords. But there hasn’t been any legendary guns. Ya know. Its mostly fist fighting, sword fighting, or using DF powers/haki, and combinations there of.

Hoping Shanks right hand man has a legit proper hand gun. Like how Mihawk has a sword. Doubtful though.


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Tornado The Dragon - a.k.a Big Brother wrote:

Redx wrote:

Tornado The Dragon - a.k.a Big Brother wrote: @Redx: I agree they are more powerful (the guns) then they seem and more powerful than some guns irl. But there are guns that are superior in RL than OP guns just saying homie.

True but then again OP characters have Haki which even at the fodder lvl Haki can make mere arrows>>>>>>>>>>>>Bullets.



True haki enhancement is a wonderful thing.

And besides normal handgun bullets are a bit below mach 1 (on average). But don’t we usually see in OP weaponry being used as a tool or distraction, or used only in the beginning of battle. I mean we have legendary swords. But there hasn’t been any legendary guns. Ya know. Its mostly fist fighting, sword fighting, or using DF powers/haki, and combinations there of.

Hoping Shanks right hand man has a legit proper hand gun. Like how Mihawk has a sword. Doubtful though.

Well I’m not exactly sure what you mean by that but if you mean that guns in OP aren’t taken all that seriously then I suppose that is the case unless we’re talking about guns being utilized by high tiers or top tiers who have Haki.

There really doesn’t need to be any legendary guns in OP seeing as how they can just enhance what they’ve got with Haki.


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Redx wrote:

Tornado The Dragon - a.k.a Big Brother wrote:

Redx wrote:

Tornado The Dragon - a.k.a Big Brother wrote: @Redx: I agree they are more powerful (the guns) then they seem and more powerful than some guns irl. But there are guns that are superior in RL than OP guns just saying homie.

True but then again OP characters have Haki which even at the fodder lvl Haki can make mere arrows>>>>>>>>>>>>Bullets.



True haki enhancement is a wonderful thing.

And besides normal handgun bullets are a bit below mach 1 (on average). But don’t we usually see in OP weaponry being used as a tool or distraction, or used only in the beginning of battle. I mean we have legendary swords. But there hasn’t been any legendary guns. Ya know. Its mostly fist fighting, sword fighting, or using DF powers/haki, and combinations there of.

Hoping Shanks right hand man has a legit proper hand gun. Like how Mihawk has a sword. Doubtful though.

1) Well I’m not exactly sure what you mean by that but if you mean that guns in OP aren’t taken all that seriously then I suppose that is the case unless we’re talking about guns being utilized by high tiers or top tiers who have Haki.

2) There really doesn’t need to be any legendary guns in OP seeing as how they can just enhance what they’ve got with Haki.



1) Some what yes, that there are no legendary guns like swords per se. But yes haki is very useful indeed.
2) True. But it would be nice to see something like that personally.


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If Oda hasn’t hinted towards it by now then I doubt it’ll happen to be honest. All the Databooks say about Benn Beckman is that he’s a “Super Sniper Elite”


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1. It’s almost impossible to find a ship that is big enough for Sanjuan Wolf.
2. Jesus Burgess' mask may be taken off some day and his face will be seen.
3. Shiki the Golden Lion was as strong as Roger, chapter 0 is a part of OP, but not in the main storyline, instead, it’s the history that has happened in OP. (not the film strong world.)
4. Jewelry Bonney has a deep relationship with the WG.
5. Mihawk is older than Shanks, the two of them have the same constellation, Pisces. (LOL)
6. Speed Jiru, the commander of the 14th division, is the fastest man in the Whitebeard Pirates.
7. During time-skip, Robin was assisting the RA under Dragon and mastered vast knowledge.
8. The Pacifistas used in the Summit War of Marineford were trial products and each cost hundreds of millions of Belly.
9. Vista’s swordmanship is strong enough to fight Mihawk.
10. Benn. Beckman is a super sniper elite. (also the smartest person in OP.)
11. Vivi as the representative of Alabasta is going to attend the World Meeting that is quadrennial.
(IMO, Dragon & Luffy will be the hottest issue.)
12. Blackbeard has the strongest DF abilities.
13. It indirectly implies Sabo is dead, directly in Green Databook as a statement of fact.
(I dont know why...)
14. Yasopp has a history with Vista.
15. Laffitte may be capable of entering any place.
16. Haoshoku haki has three levels (examples used are before time-skip):
primary - Ace & Luffy (subconsciously); middle - Rayleigh (volitionally); advanced - Shanks (continuously).


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I really wanna get my hands on that databook.

Shiki in his prime was as strong as Roger? Damn thats like the 3rd person who was on par with the Pirate King.

So Shanks’s Haoshoku Haki is on all the time? as in, just leaking out subconsciously? Fuck. Though, I figured as much.

Speed Jiru sounds like a fucking beast. His name obviously implies that he’s fast as shit but I didn’t think he was that fast. lol.

I already knew about the Yasopp thing.

I’d seriously like to know what the fuck Robin learned over the 2 years.

The Yami Yami no mi is probably more impressive than it first appeared if it’s one of the strongest Devil Fruits. Which makes sense considering what we saw was only the first usage of the ability and it proved more than enough to beat a Whitebeard Commander.

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Lots of nice info in that Databook.


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I’ll just respond to this in here.

Haki Haki no Mi wrote:
If you have city level durability and you get hit by city busters it’s not higher than if your a city block durability and your hit by a town buster. Luffy what he was handling was higher than anyone has done in one piece. Honestly hours of cellular destruction sounds more painful than anything

That feat was not “higher than anything in One Piece”. Seriously. It was impressive but it’s not a God Tier feat in OP. Considering such a feat could be preformed by Luffy whom in accordance to the portrayal of the series was physically inferior to the likes of the Admirals then the Admirals or simply anyone above Luffy would have done the same as well. Some probably would have done it with ease. Not to mention Luffy’s endurance was also below that of Moria who was capable of taking in 1000 shadows whereas Luffy could take in only 100. It should be noted that a normal person is only capable of taking in 2 or 3 shadows but thats beside the point. Luffy does not have the most endurance in One Piece.


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