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Ladd Russo wrote: Oh shit, I almost forgot Burgess was there.
Yeah, I can’t see anyone beating him.

True, but I can still foresee certain members of the Donquixote Family giving him a hard time.


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Yeah.

Doffas crew is full of hax Paramecia users however.

But Burgess should be on a whole other level from them.

Yet again Doffa stopped Jozu With his strings thought which is a impressive yet but at this stage

Burgess >= Jozu


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Each one of the seated officers should be stronger than/atleast a strong as Vergo.

There is Trebol, The dude with the top hat who shot Baby 5 in the head, Diamante & the unamed spades suit guy. Spades are usually the highest suit right? So he could be the strongest.

There is also the unnamed Toy DF user & the person who somehow erases memories, although that may not be DF related or connected to the Toy DF.


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Yeah the are all very powerful.

But Burgess is the first division commander.

Wouldn’t it be funny if Bb appeared on green bit and quaked it from his boat.

Came onto the island and went aww Don Flamingo and and Ex-shichibukai Trafalgar law.

I will be takeing your ope-ope no mi etc


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Guys just because he’s the 1st Fleet Captain of BB’s crew doesn’t make him the strongest. Oda stated that the number rankings of Whitebeard’s Division Commanders have nothing to do with their strength so it’s fair to assume the same applies to BB’s crew.

Theres no real reason to assume that Burgess is above Jozu but their probably in the same range of strength.

IMO the Guy in the top hat who shot baby 5 is probably the first mate of Doflamingo’s crew.


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Redx wrote: Guys just because he’s the 1st Fleet Captain of BB’s crew doesn’t make him the strongest. Oda stated that the number rankings of Whitebeard’s Division Commanders have nothing to do with their strength so it’s fair to assume the same applies to BB’s crew.

Theres no real reason to assume that Burgess is above Jozu but their probably in the same range of strength.

IMO the Guy in the top hat who shot baby 5 is probably the first mate of Doflamingo’s crew.




OP god tiers are wall busters at best.
Trololololol....phail bait.


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Jozu losing an arm the only reason I can see for thinking Burgess is stronger. Even then, this is the same dude Blackbeard said was no match for Ace, although he’s likely much stronger now.


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PandaG wrote: Jozu losing an arm the only reason I can see for thinking Burgess is stronger. Even then, this is the same dude Blackbeard said was no match for Ace, although he’s likely much stronger now.



Nvm read it wrong

Is this what you mean?

“After the war, Jozu appeared with his arm still intact in Chapter 590 of the Shonen Jump version; in Volume 60, however, the mistake was corrected as his bandaged arm was erased.[4]”


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^Yeah.

His arm clearly broke off when Aokiji froze him.


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His arm clearly comes off after hitting the ground while frozen. Also, note how inside the arm is also entirely frozen and appears to be ice itself. This suggests Kuzan can freeze you all the way down to every last molecule in your body.

http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/569/6


Just posting this here so that I won’t have to bother typing one up again.

Redx wrote: Luffy has knocked out giants and giant monsters with a single blow, hes been' shattering steel with his mere grip since the beginning of the series, he’s punched though over a dozen layers of bedrock, while simultaneously creating an earthquake, in order to level an entire city block+ sized area all with mere punches. He’s destroyed large buildings with regular kicks/stomps, he’s smashed through steel and objects far harder than steel with ease, ripped apart two skyscraper sized buildings with no leverage while being stuck between them, he’s delivered blows strong enough to send certain opponents flying over the horizon to completely different islands. All of this is pre time skip btw.

For speed he’s outrun explosions point blank in base about 4 times and 2 of them were long before he even learned to enhance his speed with Gear 2nd. He’s dodged bullets, shockwaves strong enough to slice through steel, repelled canon fire, and kicked lightning. He’s also kept up with people who could do the same and has dodged lasers with ease and even remarked that they were slow. He’s dodged water shots from Hodi jones that flew across a good portion of the entire country in just a few seconds Luffy casually dodged a spray of 20+ of those shots in base from close range.

In regards to his durability he survives multi city block lvl explosions without effort, and he took an island shattering punch head on and was still able to continue fighting(both of these were pre time skip btw). He’s also survived wiper’s burn bazooka which blasts it’s opponent with white hot flames and generates a large explosion which Luffy also tanked. While he’s susceptible to getting cut attacks that would have cleaved through stone or thick steel only leave a minor gash on his body. He also took rankyaku a powerful cutting shockwave to the chest and came out just fine afterward.

For endurance he’s had every cell in his entire body broken down and reconstructed for over 20 hours straight and even after that he proceeds to fight in a war whilst taking blows from hundreds of fighters some of which were even stronger than he was at the time. Survived absorbing 100 shadows whereas a normal person would only be able to take in about 2 or 3 before passing out. He’s also been portrayed to be on the same lvl as Jimbei who can fight for 5 days straight. Theres more but, this alone is enough.

Luffy’s DC is around island lvl or more. His Elephant Gatling was going to destroy Noah even while on the verge of passing out from massive blood loss. Before anyone starts with the “lolNoah were mades of woodzez” downplay. It was stated that the strawhats submarine which was made of steel/iron would get crushed at a depth of 5000 meters. Noah survived at a depth of 10,000 meters for over 800 years without breaking apart or even getting remotely soggy. It even crashed into a undersea mountain destroying the mountain in the process without getting a single scratch. It was also stated that Luffy would have obliterated the ship had they not been in time to stop him.


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Nice summary Red.
There is a lot of stuff in there that I never noticed.

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I also noticed this recently while looking for that Jozu scan.


Take a look at the bottom panel farthest to the right. Old Garp’s punch to Marco was stronger than I thought.


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Ladd Russo wrote:
There is a lot of stuff in there that I never noticed.

Most people never do.

And just so I don’t have to go searching for my own quotes again I’ll leave my explanation of the Vice Admirals stabbing WB here.

Redx wrote: Vice Admirals can be identified by their uniforms. They usually wear the typical Marine coat along with their own unique outfit or suit. Whereas fodder usually wear the normal blue marine ascot with a white button down shirt and blue pants. The men stabbing him in the manga are clearly Vice Admirals and not fodder.


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Redx wrote: His arm clearly comes off after hitting the ground while frozen. Also, note how inside the arm is also entirely frozen and appears to be ice itself. This suggests Kuzan can freeze you all the way down to every last molecule in your body.

http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/569/6


Just posting this here so that I won’t have to bother typing one up again.

Redx wrote: Luffy has knocked out giants and giant monsters with a single blow, hes been' shattering steel with his mere grip since the beginning of the series, he’s punched though over a dozen layers of bedrock, while simultaneously creating an earthquake, in order to level an entire city block+ sized area all with mere punches. He’s destroyed large buildings with regular kicks/stomps, he’s smashed through steel and objects far harder than steel with ease, ripped apart two skyscraper sized buildings with no leverage while being stuck between them, he’s delivered blows strong enough to send certain opponents flying over the horizon to completely different islands. All of this is pre time skip btw.

For speed he’s outrun explosions point blank in base about 4 times and 2 of them were long before he even learned to enhance his speed with Gear 2nd. He’s dodged bullets, shockwaves strong enough to slice through steel, repelled canon fire, and kicked lightning. He’s also kept up with people who could do the same and has dodged lasers with ease and even remarked that they were slow. He’s dodged water shots from Hodi jones that flew across a good portion of the entire country in just a few seconds Luffy casually dodged a spray of 20+ of those shots in base from close range.

In regards to his durability he survives multi city block lvl explosions without effort, and he took an island shattering punch head on and was still able to continue fighting(both of these were pre time skip btw). He’s also survived wiper’s burn bazooka which blasts it’s opponent with white hot flames and generates a large explosion which Luffy also tanked. While he’s susceptible to getting cut attacks that would have cleaved through stone or thick steel only leave a minor gash on his body. He also took rankyaku a powerful cutting shockwave to the chest and came out just fine afterward.

For endurance he’s had every cell in his entire body broken down and reconstructed for over 20 hours straight and even after that he proceeds to fight in a war whilst taking blows from hundreds of fighters some of which were even stronger than he was at the time. Survived absorbing 100 shadows whereas a normal person would only be able to take in about 2 or 3 before passing out. He’s also been portrayed to be on the same lvl as Jimbei who can fight for 5 days straight. Theres more but, this alone is enough.

Luffy’s DC is around island lvl or more. His Elephant Gatling was going to destroy Noah even while on the verge of passing out from massive blood loss. Before anyone starts with the “lolNoah were mades of woodzez” downplay. It was stated that the strawhats submarine which was made of steel/iron would get crushed at a depth of 5000 meters. Noah survived at a depth of 10,000 meters for over 800 years without breaking apart or even getting remotely soggy. It even crashed into a undersea mountain destroying the mountain in the process without getting a single scratch. It was also stated that Luffy would have obliterated the ship had they not been in time to stop him.



To the molecule? LolRedx. You keep getting better.

You don’t have to be frozen to that extent to end up like Jozu lol. I hope you were using a hyperbole, since you’d be wrong if you were literal.


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Learn 2 read brah.

I said “suggests” and freezing does generally occur on the molecular lvl anyways seeings how thats what freezing generally does. When water is frozen it’s molecules are also frozen hence why it’s no longer a liquid.


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Redx wrote: Learn 2 read brah.

I said “suggests” and freezing does generally occur on the molecular lvl anyways seeings how thats what freezing generally does. When water is frozen it’s molecules are also frozen hence why it’s not longer a liquid.



Molecules freeze? Good one, bro.

Anyhow, suggest all you want, but keep it that way, and don’t go making up stuff that’s not in the manga lol.


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juniorsworld wrote:

Redx wrote: Learn 2 read brah.

I said “suggests” and freezing does generally occur on the molecular lvl anyways seeings how thats what freezing generally does. When water is frozen it’s molecules are also frozen hence why it’s not longer a liquid.



Molecules freeze? Good one, bro.

Anyhow, suggest all you want, but keep it that way, and don’t go making up stuff that’s not in the manga lol.

I’ve never stated anything that couldn’t be discerned from on panel evidence.

Dude.....what?

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/liquids/freeze.html

Do molecules not slow down to become solid when they freeze? You learn that kind of stuff in 5th grade bro lol.

Edit: An even better site

http://www.middleschoolchemistry.com/lessonplans/chapter2/lesson4


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Garp didnt even use a huge amount of haki to knock Marco away. I really want to see him going all out or a flashback of him fighting chinjao.


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Redx wrote:

juniorsworld wrote:

Redx wrote: Learn 2 read brah.

I said “suggests” and freezing does generally occur on the molecular lvl anyways seeings how thats what freezing generally does. When water is frozen it’s molecules are also frozen hence why it’s not longer a liquid.



Molecules freeze? Good one, bro.

Anyhow, suggest all you want, but keep it that way, and don’t go making up stuff that’s not in the manga lol.

I’ve never stated anything that couldn’t be discerned from on panel evidence.

Dude.....what?

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/liquids/freeze.html

Do molecules not slow down to become solid when they freeze? You learn that kind of stuff in 5th grade bro lol.

Edit: An even better site

http://www.middleschoolchemistry.com/lessonplans/chapter2/lesson4



What you showed me wasn’t molecules freezing, it was molecules slowing down thanks to the loss of Kinetic Energy. Molecules don’t freeze in the real world, in liquids. They just change shape to become more crystalline. =/


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juniorsworld wrote:

Redx wrote:

juniorsworld wrote:

Redx wrote: Learn 2 read brah.

I said “suggests” and freezing does generally occur on the molecular lvl anyways seeings how thats what freezing generally does. When water is frozen it’s molecules are also frozen hence why it’s not longer a liquid.



Molecules freeze? Good one, bro.

Anyhow, suggest all you want, but keep it that way, and don’t go making up stuff that’s not in the manga lol.

I’ve never stated anything that couldn’t be discerned from on panel evidence.

Dude.....what?

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/liquids/freeze.html

Do molecules not slow down to become solid when they freeze? You learn that kind of stuff in 5th grade bro lol.

Edit: An even better site

http://www.middleschoolchemistry.com/lessonplans/chapter2/lesson4



What you showed me wasn’t molecules freezing, it was molecules slowing down thanks to the loss of Kinetic Energy. Molecules don’t freeze in the real world, in liquids. They just change shape to become more crystalline. =/

Thats essentially what freezing is though. Molecules slowing down. Which was my point :T


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