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One Piece Vs Discussion Thread: Power, Strengths, Abilities etc.

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Redx wrote:

Gol D. Gon wrote:

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Gol D. Gon wrote:
Maybe those with such an extremely powerful kings haki like shanks has are able to passively knock out people without controlling this. Its just that their sheer aura is enough not even the actual use of kings haki. Also think about it. Shanks cracked WBs ship. What would happen if shanks releases his kings haki ?^^

That was commented on in the One Piece Blue Deep DataBook.

Apparently Shanks' Haoshoku Haki is the 3rd lvl of that type.

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-general/one-piece-vs-discussion-thread-how-strong-they-are-abilities-etc-291098/96

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lol permanent kings haki activated how overpowered is this shit ?

I think Shanks' Haki is simply just that potent.


Also shiki being as strong as roger wow. I always put him 1 tier below roger.

So now we have 5 confirmed god tiers. Roger,shiki,WB,Garp and sengoku.

5 guys all around the same strength awesome.


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@GoGon:

Rayleigh should be in that group. And possibly Scopper Gaban as well.

Including whoever Whitebeard’s first Vice Captain was. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t Marco....or at least I think it wasn’t. The dude looks too young. Though thats probably due to his Phoenix DF or something.


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Redx wrote: @GoGon:

Rayleigh should be in that group. And possibly Scopper Gaban as well.

Including whoever Whitebeard’s first Vice Captain was. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t Marco....or at least I think it wasn’t. The dude looks too young. Though thats probably due to his Phoenix DF or something.



Maybe WBs old crew died and he started to give outsiders a place to live so he hired guys like marco.

Btw scopper gaban was the guy in rogers crew right?


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Gol D. Gon wrote: scopper gaban was the guy in rogers crew right?

Yeah. He was the Left hand of the Pirate King meaning he should have been in the same league as the Dark King.


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Btw has there been a ranged attack that has hit luffy since the time skip


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12-22-2013 10:54 PM
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Rin Kagura wrote: Btw has there been a ranged attack that has hit luffy since the time skip

A ranged attack? as in something fired at him from a vast distance? absolutely not.

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Just makin sure I didn’t miss something. But what about Usopp pop greens think he can make that giant plant thing grow and eat an island that would be badass


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Gol D. Gon wrote: SMall planet level

lol
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i want to know what do you think about small city level rokuougan? is that too much or maybe too low?


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Landspace wrote:

Gol D. Gon wrote: SMall planet level

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i want to know what do you think about small city level rokuougan? is that too much or maybe too low?


I dont know why but I see lucci at best town level.


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Landspace wrote: i want to know what do you think about small city level rokuougan?

It’s somewhat likely I guess but it requires a bit more investigation.


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True I’m still thinkin it’s a one target move, but he fouls probably slice a city in half with his rankyaku him or haku


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Luffy tanked town level explosion unguarded like nothing. And a rokuougan was enough to make him seriously injured.
Based on that im pretty sure rokuougan is city level in AP

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KisaragiSaya wrote: Luffy tanked town level explosion unguarded like nothing. And a rokuougan was enough to make him seriously injured.
Based on that im pretty sure rokuougan is city level in AP


Going back and looking at the showings:

Multiple shots from a warship dwarf a rather large portion of the island.



A single canon from a warship took out the tower of justice which was roughly 1/4 the size of the small island located in the center of that huge waterfall.

The Size of the Tower of Justice.
http://mangasee.com/manga/?series=OnePiece&chapter=375&index=1&page=12


(^Usopp managed to survive that btw as well as falling face first into the concrete from that height)

Luffy took shots from all of the warships firing at once so all together the damage looks like it might have indeed been around City lvl or more and taking into account Luffy’s previous durability feat of surviving a mountain range sized skull dropped on him back in Little Garden, Rokuougan being City lvl in potency is starting to seem a bit more likely.


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Quincy wrote:

Redx wrote: Do you still believe that Lucci’s attack potency with Rokuougan is greater than the AOE of Shadows’s Asgard Moria’s punch?



Assuming Luffy’s body is completely rubber (which protects his internal organs) then it makes sense for Rokuougan to actually be potent enough to hurt him in that way. What is Rokuougan anyway? It’s a shock wave from the looks of it; meaning it was pretty much just a wave of energy propagating through Luffy’s body. Only argument against it being a shock wave is that it traveled in a straight line. But that may have been because of other conditions. Not entirely dismissible because of that. Anyways, I’m fairly sure it was defined in the manga with similar properties as a shock wave.

Like I said, assuming Luffy’s body is completely rubber, with no loopholes, then Rokuougan’s energy level (potency) may have been intense enough to cause damage to Luffy’s body. That points to it being more powerful than the Shadow Asgard punch.

That does make sense I guess. Rokuougan was compared to the reject/impact dials so I’d say the tech is clearly some form of shockwave. Though I’ll check some scans of it again to make sure.

And I suppose Lucci having one technique thats more potent that a punch from Shadows Asgard wouldn’t make Lucci overall superior to Moria as a combatant so I don’t think it’s out of place with anything. It’s similar to how Franky’s Redical beam>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one of current Sanji’s kicks yet Sanji is still the superior fighter.

So Rokuougan being>>>A punch from Shadows Asgard actually makes sense.


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KisaragiSaya wrote: Luffy tanked town level explosion unguarded like nothing. And a rokuougan was enough to make him seriously injured.
Based on that im pretty sure rokuougan is city level in AP

for Sai Dai Rin Rokuougan, yes. city level+ is make sense
but for a normal rokuougan, i dont think so


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Landspace wrote:

KisaragiSaya wrote: Luffy tanked town level explosion unguarded like nothing. And a rokuougan was enough to make him seriously injured.
Based on that im pretty sure rokuougan is city level in AP

for Sai Dai Rin Rokuougan, yes. city level+ is make sense
but for a normal rokuougan, i dont think so

Actually the one Lucci used in his shaved Leoparde form still did significant damage to Luffy.

He almost didn’t get up at all the first 2 times he was hit with it.

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I just noticed that one of Luffy’s smaller G3 pistols shook the entire Tower of justice and almost caused the entire tower to fall apart just from busting through that thick steel door.



Pretty impressive for a low end first time usage of the tech.


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Redx wrote:

Quincy wrote:

Redx wrote: Do you still believe that Lucci’s attack potency with Rokuougan is greater than the AOE of Shadows’s Asgard Moria’s punch?



Assuming Luffy’s body is completely rubber (which protects his internal organs) then it makes sense for Rokuougan to actually be potent enough to hurt him in that way. What is Rokuougan anyway? It’s a shock wave from the looks of it; meaning it was pretty much just a wave of energy propagating through Luffy’s body. Only argument against it being a shock wave is that it traveled in a straight line. But that may have been because of other conditions. Not entirely dismissible because of that. Anyways, I’m fairly sure it was defined in the manga with similar properties as a shock wave.

Like I said, assuming Luffy’s body is completely rubber, with no loopholes, then Rokuougan’s energy level (potency) may have been intense enough to cause damage to Luffy’s body. That points to it being more powerful than the Shadow Asgard punch.

That does make sense I guess. Rokuougan was compared to the reject/impact dials so I’d say the tech is clearly some form of shockwave. Though I’ll check some scans of it again to make sure.

And I suppose Lucci having one technique thats more potent that a punch from Shadows Asgard wouldn’t make Lucci overall superior to Moria as a combatant so I don’t think it’s out of place with anything. It’s similar to how Franky’s Redical beam>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one of current Sanji’s kicks yet Sanji is still the superior fighter.

So Rokuougan being>>>A punch from Shadows Asgard actually makes sense.

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superfreshbiltz wrote: Or maybe Luffy is more resistant to blunt trauma attacks than internal damaging shockwaves?



This and phixed.


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juniorsworld wrote:

superfreshbiltz wrote: Or maybe Luffy is more resistant to blunt trauma attacks than internal damaging shockwaves?



This and phixed.

A shockwave is still essentially blunt damage though.

Luffy should logically have still been damaged internally by Moria’s blow yet he got back up from it with minimal injuries.

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Redx wrote: I realized that seeing as how the strawhats get stronger each arc it isn’t logical to compare the damage received by a much stronger Luffy to one received by a weaker version which is why I dropped the Rokuougan vs Shadows Asgard argument and left the potency of Rokuougan at City lvl or so.


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