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JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote:

UltmateBROS25 wrote:

JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote:

UltmateBROS25 wrote:
But then what about the Kakashi and Itachi encounter?



what about it?



Kakashi reacted to water bullets at the speed of light by forming his own jutsu to block it. If he had time to weave hand signs AND block the LS bullets, wouldn’t that be considered a FTL reaction?



proof those bullets travel at the speed of light?



I can’t at the moment, I’m not home I’m on my phone.
But the database says the bullets travel at the speed of light.

“From the water, bullets at the speed of light--- coming from a blind spot to bore into the enemy!!"

That’s the exact description of the jutsu.
It’s called Water Fang Bullet


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If Haku really was LS, then there’s no way that Zaku’s sound waves would make contact with Lee and Pain’s 5 second interval would be an eternity

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nothing complicated here, from what I understand all these feats of reaction is due largely to the sharingan, not because all the characters move at ftl.

understand, there are 3 types of speed.
-speed of travel. (get from point A to B )
-speed of combat. (lee, gai...)
-speed of reaction.(sasuke, kakashi...)


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Celestial wrote: nothing complicated here, from what I understand all these feats of reaction is due largely to the sharingan, not because all the characters move at ftl.

understand, there are 3 types of speed.
-speed of travel. (get from point A to B )
-speed of combat. (lee, gai...)
-speed of reaction.(sasuke, kakashi...)

Sasuke was able to catch Haku with a fireball jutsu. So that would mean that his fireball jutsu is LS

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One of Them wrote:

Celestial wrote: nothing complicated here, from what I understand all these feats of reaction is due largely to the sharingan, not because all the characters move at ftl.

understand, there are 3 types of speed.
-speed of travel. (get from point A to B )
-speed of combat. (lee, gai...)
-speed of reaction.(sasuke, kakashi...)

Sasuke was able to catch Haku with a fireball jutsu. So that would mean that his fireball jutsu is LS



is not the first time I see fast techniques that exist that exceed the speed of the enemy, then yes it is possible. for example solar flare could surprise you stronger enemies, even though they are faster and stronger.


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naruto has waaaaaaay too many low end sped feats to even consider that it’s actually ftl.


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Celestial wrote:

One of Them wrote:

Celestial wrote: nothing complicated here, from what I understand all these feats of reaction is due largely to the sharingan, not because all the characters move at ftl.

understand, there are 3 types of speed.
-speed of travel. (get from point A to B )
-speed of combat. (lee, gai...)
-speed of reaction.(sasuke, kakashi...)

Sasuke was able to catch Haku with a fireball jutsu. So that would mean that his fireball jutsu is LS



is not the first time I see fast techniques that exist that exceed the speed of the enemy, then yes it is possible. for example solar flare could surprise you stronger enemies, even though they are faster and stronger.

But the Sasuke that caught Haku got blitzed by the Lee that could not outrun sound waves

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And nel is a child with arguable mental issues. But ulquoirra’as country buster is accepted.

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Oh wrote: And nel is a child with arguable mental issues. But ulquoirra’as country buster is accepted.

Not that I ever cared for speed debates, but this post makes you sound really mad

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One of Them wrote:

Celestial wrote:

One of Them wrote:

Celestial wrote: nothing complicated here, from what I understand all these feats of reaction is due largely to the sharingan, not because all the characters move at ftl.

understand, there are 3 types of speed.
-speed of travel. (get from point A to B )
-speed of combat. (lee, gai...)
-speed of reaction.(sasuke, kakashi...)

Sasuke was able to catch Haku with a fireball jutsu. So that would mean that his fireball jutsu is LS



is not the first time I see fast techniques that exist that exceed the speed of the enemy, then yes it is possible. for example solar flare could surprise you stronger enemies, even though they are faster and stronger.

But the Sasuke that caught Haku got blitzed by the Lee that could not outrun sound waves



Lee explains that while Sasuke has a good reaction speed, he does not have good speed of combat, starting from this episode was that it was established that reaction speed = / = speed of combat.
he says that won because it had a better combat speed, even Sasuke could not easily copy because his body could not move as fast as your eyes. a good example would be spider-man, thanks to his precognition that he could predict the enemy’s attack, giving you time to formulate a strategy, even before the enemy attacks, plus it can not always avoid all attacks of the enemy, especially if the difference is large in the speed of combat.


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Celestial wrote:

One of Them wrote:

Celestial wrote:

One of Them wrote:

Celestial wrote: nothing complicated here, from what I understand all these feats of reaction is due largely to the sharingan, not because all the characters move at ftl.

understand, there are 3 types of speed.
-speed of travel. (get from point A to B )
-speed of combat. (lee, gai...)
-speed of reaction.(sasuke, kakashi...)

Sasuke was able to catch Haku with a fireball jutsu. So that would mean that his fireball jutsu is LS



is not the first time I see fast techniques that exist that exceed the speed of the enemy, then yes it is possible. for example solar flare could surprise you stronger enemies, even though they are faster and stronger.

But the Sasuke that caught Haku got blitzed by the Lee that could not outrun sound waves



Lee explains that while Sasuke has a good reaction speed, he does not have good speed of combat, starting from this episode was that it was established that reaction speed = / = speed of combat.
he says that won because it had a better combat speed, even Sasuke could not easily copy because his body could not move as fast as your eyes. a good example would be spider-man, thanks to his precognition that he could predict the enemy’s attack, giving you time to formulate a strategy, even before the enemy attacks, plus it can not always avoid all attacks of the enemy, especially if the difference is large in the speed of combat.

But still if Sasuke caught Haku but couldn’t do anything against Lee, it means Lee is faster than Haku

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UltmateBROS25 wrote:

I can’t at the moment, I’m not home I’m on my phone.
But the database says the bullets travel at the speed of light.

“From the water, bullets at the speed of light--- coming from a blind spot to bore into the enemy!!"

That’s the exact description of the jutsu.
It’s called Water Fang Bullet



Sounds like a bunch of hyperbole to me.


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MFTL part 1 DB confirmed
MFTL OP confirmed
MFTL Bleach confirmed
MFTL Toriko confirmed


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One of Them wrote: If Haku really was LS, then there’s no way that Zaku’s sound waves would make contact with Lee and Pain’s 5 second interval would be an eternity



Eh


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UltmateBROS25 wrote: If Kishimoto intended it, Naruto characters should very easily be MFTL+++++.
But they aren’t.

We all know Haku was light speed in his ice mirror technique.
And a half-dead Sasuke reacted to that speed with his first-stage sharingans.
So Sasuke has light speed reaction and this is only beginning of series Sasuke.
Then Lee came around, and no matter what Sasuke did he couldn’t react to Lee’s taijutsu. This makes Lee FTL.
Jounin in Naruto were FTL. Itachi did a water bullet technique in which the database says shoots bullets at light speed and Kakashi easily reacted to it and weaved his own jutsu to block it.
So then wtf Kage should all be MFTL.
The only logical explaination to this is that all the characters are FTL but in the Narutoverse it’s considered normal speed so Kishimoto doesn’t have to emphasize it.
The more likely explanation is that Kishi realized his characters were way too fast from the start and downplayed them from there.
EDIT: I’d also like to add that most of these feats I’m talking about are reaction speeds, not general movement speed.

Discuss.


Kishi doesn’t give a fuck about VS and MFTL and all that shit


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Then you realize the Manga never said Haku moved at light speed. That was the English Dub of the Anime.

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JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote: how the fuck are Naruto characters MFTL++++++++++++++ when they can’t react to fucking knifes being thrown and birds flying

this is fucking ridiculous




Agreed.


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This is irrelevant


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1. Haku movement between mirrors was light speed. The needles were just throwing speed.
If your on like a roller coaster or something and you throw something off, it won’t automatically be as fast if you can’t throw that fast.


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Fairy tail FTL wow o.o

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