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01-17-2014 08:30 AM
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I want to write this guide as a way to help people understand what PIS is and how it works. Since a lot of people seem to either not get it or find problems with the concept. Basically, PIS is when an inconsistency shows up in a character showing and we need to resolve it. See, comics are not always consistent in their character depictions. However, there are times when character depictions directly contradict each other. So, for consistency sakes we look for the most consistent feat in the character history and remove the outlier.

Let’s start with one of my favorite characters: Rogue. Now rogues mutant power is the ability to absorb an individual’s memories and power-set with a touch. Simple, right?

Here’s an example of her powers at work in X-men Legacy #266



With a simple touch she absorbs She-Hulks power.
Again in X-men Legacy #267 shes shown not only to have Jennifers powers, but rage as well:




But, how just how much can she absorb? What I mean is she has limitations. Each time she touches someone a piece of their psyche stays with her. If she absorbs too much then it can drive her mad. This is exactly what happens in: X-men legacy #267.






It should be noted that Moonknight has MPD. Meaning he has more than one mind. He has 3 plus adding She-Hulks angry personality brings us to 4 minds. The problem is this is inconsistent.

First off, rogue at that point had full mastery of her powers. You see rogue originally didn’t have much control of her abilities. Anyone she touched with her bare skin would be absorbed by her powers. The problem is that her powers were immature and didn’t reach their mature form until X-men Legacy # 224 thanks to Xavier.







In her mature form she can choose to absorb what she touches even if she makes contact with her bare skin. That’s why she could kiss Remy. Otherwise, he’d be drained like anyone else that touches rogues bare skin.

This creates a plot-hole. Marc Spencer [Moon Knight] forced rogue to touch him and that caused her to absorb his personalities. Basically, it was a tactic because he knew that his MPD would be too much for her. The problem is rogue in her mature state can choose what she can or can’t absorb regardless if it’s skin on skin at this point. So, how could spencer force her to absorb his essence? It makes no sense.

But, for the sake of argument even if we assume that he could force his powers on her somehow. There’s is just no way 4 personas can stop rogue.

Here’s why:

In X-men Legacy #251 Rogue absorbs countless of legions powers. Keep in mind that each power has their own personality



Then latter she absorbs all, that’s right ALL of legions personalities in X-men Legacy #253



Please remember that each power = a personality. And,legion has thousands of personas since his psyche is so fragmented. So, what Marc did was impossible.

Just to add insult to injury. Here’s rogue talking about her upper limit and how many personalities she can handle in X-men legacy #250:



Billions. . .There you have it ladies and gentlemen. Here’s the description of the Hecatomb:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/hecatombshiar.htm

Even though, she wasn’t sure if she could take legions thousands of personas. She managed to absorb them ALL and easily. So, 4-5 personas giving her trouble? Puh-lease.


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Alpha and Omega wrote:
Science is even bigger bullshit lol, they believe the big bang created everything from 2 atoms colliding together or some shit, they tried to do the same thing in 2008 spending 10 billion dollars doing it, but the risk was a very small black hole being made if failed, they failed and no black hole was created also.

Edited 01-17-2014 09:40 AM by Tomie
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01-17-2014 08:34 AM
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Textbook example of PIS. Good job.


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Edited 01-17-2014 08:34 AM by znjfl
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01-17-2014 09:12 AM
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Thanks. This is just an example I remember. Hope people read it and understand what PIS is. Also, is it too much to ask for a sticky?


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Alpha and Omega wrote:
Science is even bigger bullshit lol, they believe the big bang created everything from 2 atoms colliding together or some shit, they tried to do the same thing in 2008 spending 10 billion dollars doing it, but the risk was a very small black hole being made if failed, they failed and no black hole was created also.

Edited 01-17-2014 09:18 AM by Tomie
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01-17-2014 02:07 PM
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I can’t sticky this since im only a Versus-Mod. Ask Kinasin or GM’s


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Rayddit wrote: You found a Tumblr post about how a brave transgender feminist WoC made a white male cishet check his privilege? I still get aroused every time I think about how that happened in real life.

Your Facebook newsfeed tells a tale of how a newly enlightened 15-year-old Atheist put that stupid fundie in their place? My girlfriend who you haven’t met because she goes to a different school totally saw it happen and verified it for me.

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01-17-2014 04:11 PM
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Mu wrote: I can’t sticky this since im only a Versus-Mod. Ask Kinasin or GM’s



Can it be moved to versus and stickied? I worked really hard on it and I think it’s important.


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Alpha and Omega wrote:
Science is even bigger bullshit lol, they believe the big bang created everything from 2 atoms colliding together or some shit, they tried to do the same thing in 2008 spending 10 billion dollars doing it, but the risk was a very small black hole being made if failed, they failed and no black hole was created also.

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Tomie wrote:

Mu wrote: I can’t sticky this since im only a Versus-Mod. Ask Kinasin or GM’s



Can it be moved to versus and stickied? I worked really hard on it and I think it’s important.



Im sorry if I would have seen this in Versus when it was moved I’d had stickied it ASAP!


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Rayddit wrote: You found a Tumblr post about how a brave transgender feminist WoC made a white male cishet check his privilege? I still get aroused every time I think about how that happened in real life.

Your Facebook newsfeed tells a tale of how a newly enlightened 15-year-old Atheist put that stupid fundie in their place? My girlfriend who you haven’t met because she goes to a different school totally saw it happen and verified it for me.

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Very well done tomie!


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I wonder if X-men has hentai.


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DreamWeaver Amaterasu wrote: I wonder if X-men has hentai.



What?!


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01-20-2014 03:55 PM
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Thumbs up for quality post.


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There is hentai for everything... you’re better off searching for it, cause making yourself seem foolish is so unattractive.


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Every character’s power is subjective.


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DreamWeaver Amaterasu wrote: I wonder if X-men has hentai.



Virgin


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Raniero wrote: A loli-nipple shot.

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02-03-2016 09:44 PM
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AsukaLove wrote: There is hentai for everything... you’re better off searching for it, cause making yourself seem foolish is so unattractive.



Here you go!

Edited 11-17-2016 06:58 PM by Only Faggots Get Postive Reps From Me

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