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BlackStar-Blake wrote: That’s true. I’m simply saying that in Bleach DC and AoE is what Kubo spews out most fights so to say that it doesn’t matter in this series in incorrect.

I mean that DC/AoE do not determine the strength of an attack

In those scans you showed me, in that second one, Ichigo just simply chose not to release the getsuga tenshou but instead focus it onto his zanpakuto.

No, he does that later on. The second one is a normal slash. It’s just that Ichigo had become strong enough to the point where a normal slash is stronger than that previous Masked Getsuga(full powered in fact), even though the first one causes far more destruction

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09-13-2013 12:31 AM
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One of Them wrote:

[img]http://manga.starkana.com/151/5647/M7_Bleach_Ch366_07.png[/img]


Those menos grande are huge.
Anybody know how tall are those buldings that they are dwarfing.

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09-13-2013 12:35 AM
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Magna-Z wrote:

One of Them wrote:

[img]http://manga.starkana.com/151/5647/M7_Bleach_Ch366_07.png[/img]


Those menos grande are huge.
Anybody know how tall are those buldings that they are dwarfing.



Considering in Japan houses tend to be smaller not downplaying just being factual so those grande at the very least should be small skyscraper since even apartment buildings are dwarfed by them.

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09-13-2013 07:01 AM
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The size of the hollow “Hooler” makes those Menos Granda look like little kittens,
and a vice captain one shot it with a kick.

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Well vice-captains are pretty damn powerful in bleach compared to other soul beings.


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One of Them wrote:

Yeah, you didn’t know?

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gothic lolita member wrote:

One of Them wrote:

Yeah, you didn’t know?

I never noticed

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I find it impressive that the Yhwach or the Quincies were able to create space inside the shadows out of ambient reishi




If they could do this with kishi/atoms in the physical world, that would make them a god.

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Tekken11 wrote: I find it impressive that the Yhwach or the Quincies were able to create space inside the shadows out of ambient reishi




If they could do this with kishi/atoms in the physical world, that would make them a god.

They should, since all matter has a soul in Bleach. I also wonder how far Fullbring can go, you know, manipulating the surroundings and whatnot

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So it says crushing into atoms while also distorting space-time with gravity



I’m not trying to say anything, but anyone want to reconsider?

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So... here are some speed feats.

[img]http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/9/18-150.0/compressed/_manga_rain_bleach_ch150_01.jpg[/img]
[img]http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/9/18-150.0/compressed/_manga_rain_bleach_ch150_04.jpg[/img]


[img]http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/9/18-153.0/compressed/_manga_rain_bleach_ch153_12.jpg[/img]
[img]http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/9/18-153.0/compressed/_manga_rain_bleach_ch153_13.jpg[/img]


[img]http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/9/18-153.0/compressed/_manga_rain_bleach_ch153_16.jpg[/img]
[img]http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/9/18-153.0/compressed/_manga_rain_bleach_ch153_17.jpg[/img]


[img]http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/9/18-154.0/compressed/_manga_rain_bleach_ch154_17.jpg[/img]
[img]http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/9/18-154.0/compressed/_manga_rain_bleach_ch154_18.jpg[/img]



How big is that “hill”?

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smarty wrote: So... here are some speed feats.










How big is that “hill”?

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@One Of Them, check your PM.


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Postskip bankai Ichigo is city level from the vaporization feat.


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Kagami wrote: Postskip bankai Ichigo is city level from the vaporization feat.

Post skip Bankai Ichigo destroyed a city sized dimension by releasing Bankai.

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Tekken11 wrote: I find it impressive that the Yhwach or the Quincies were able to create space inside the shadows out of ambient reishi

[img]http://i13.mangapanda.com/bleach/547/bleach-4430893.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i13.mangapanda.com/bleach/547/bleach-4430895.jpg[/img]



If they could do this with kishi/atoms in the physical world, that would make them a god.


Though the Qincy’s do not control atoms/kishi, they are still able to use that same shadow technique within the physical world because there is still reishi in the physical world, simply not as much as in the Soul Society.
The difference being that the abundant reishi in the Soul Society allows them to create a space the size of a country within the shadows, while in the physical world they may be able to create the space the size of a small town. A major difference when comparing the capabilities in the two worlds.

I believe they have already used that same shadow technique in the physical world when Ichigo was 1st confronted by one of the Wandenriech members in his bedroom.

Thanks for bringing that up. I didn’t understand how that shadow technique worked exactly until reading your post just now.

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I doubt that they could, there has to be an abundance of Reishi to do that, which is why they are at their weakest in the material world. Hueco Mundo they are at their strongest as stated by Uryu


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Chaos Theory wrote: I doubt that they could, there has to be an abundance of Reishi to do that, which is why they are at their weakest in the material world. Hueco Mundo they are at their strongest as stated by Uryu


Like I said already, they are able to use the shadow technique within the physical world.

[img]http://i36.mangapanda.com/bleach/484/bleach-3122159.jpg[/img][img]http://a.mtcdn.com/manga/p/379/230608/11.jpg[/img]


An abundant supply of reishi is not required for them to use the technique. The lack of reishi in the physical world only hinders them from using the technique on a large scale, such as hiding an area the size of Seireitei. This doesn’t change the fact that they are at there weakest while in the material world.

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Tornado The Dragon - a.k.a Big Brother wrote: Hmm so would you consider her to be within the blast radius then or outside of it. If it is only 1m then she is outside of it if it so 2m or more than she is within the blast radius.

1) All I know is that we can’t see her in the panel because she is inside the blast

Since the explosion began, Orihime saw, reacted, put up her shield, grabbed Maki Maki who was lying on the floor, and placed him behind the shield. Ishida also got behind the shield. All this happened before the blast touched either one of the 3.

3)Yea Orihime as come the normal damsel in distress. Pretty annoying when her ability is of equal or great hax then even the hogyuku. But if the combination both of our happened then by EoS Orihime would be the strongest character you know in the holy trinity. lol.

2) That would be so ironic

But then there is a problem with that though. Space and time are inexorably linked together. Its one thing though. Space-time. The fast you go e.g. LS the easier it becomes to see that it is one fabric.

3) I thought space and time were considered as two separate dimensions here in the real world?

The only way we can make sense f that is too assume that its space component is larger than its time component kind of like x and y axes. But instead the s and t axes.

4) With Kubo, anything’s possible. Or maybe it’s a translation error, who knows

Not to mention who said that gain? Depending on which character it could have been a hyperbole. Was it Halibel’s fraccion or Halibel herself? Or someone else?

5) I don’t remember. Either way you can see in the panel that the space shown is kind of shrunk, like the way the clouds are drawn to be attracted to that black line there



First of all sorry about responding so late I completely forgot about this.

1) Well perhaps I will try putting this calc together and see if people actually accept an HS+ Orihime way back in SS. IF this turns out to be true this would put SS bankai Ichigo @ mach 120+ easily.
2) It would be indeed. But it’s not going to happen. B/c of lolkubo.
3) They only appear to be. Space consists of 3 main dimensions. Time we don’t know if it has any components or not. But space-time itself has 2 component both are linked to each other like x=y. Both are interdependent on one another. So here is an example:

For star travel you want your space component to be much larger then your time component just like you want your height (h component) to be higher than your width (w component). Otherwise you would age tens to hundreds of years before you reached your destination. But if you want to time travel you want your time (t component) to be larger then your space (s component) otherwise you would travel a great distance but very short in time. So space & time travel would have similar technologies going by the physics we know today. But neither can be achieved currently of course.

Hope this explanation was helpful if you don’t understand let me know I may have done a bad job of it.
4) I doubt Kubo thought of components in physics when he did that. More like “Hey that’s cool! it will make them appear even more powerful!"; so in this scenario if it turns out to be true then espada’s ceros warp the s component more then the t component going by my example above. But the tricky thing is warping can lead to contraction (or expansion) of space. So determining a cero’s speed will become all the more tricky and confusing. Since space and time are NOT constant. Not even light is (depends on certain variables).

But yea it could always be a translation error in which case would make it much easier to determine a cero’s speed and power.
5) Fair enough but for now we should just leave this point unless if someone has something to solidly confirm or debunk this issue.


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