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Mikaboshi wrote: Don’t more sales = More fans which recognize the quality of it?


By your logic Game of Thrones is actually below Ed Edd and Eddy



And by your logic Fairy tail has the 9th most quality of all the manga in the world.


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Proto Dude wrote: Being durable enough to tank something when heavily damaged is not as impressive as tanking it when at full health.
That has got to be in the top 5 most retarded arguments.
I have seen it used to downplay Mega Man X characters, Cloud Strife, and Frieza among others.


And then Super Nigga also tried to downplay Mega Man X by saying that losing limbs is not a big deal to reploids.... despite the fact that Zero died from sacrificing his limbs in X1 and 1 of the reploids in Mega Man X4 actually died straight after just having his arm sliced off.


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Zechs Marquise wrote: I’m much more composed than you are right now. If one makes a decision with a cool head, he won’t find himself regretting that decision later on.

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Zeed wrote:

Leper Messiah wrote: How will making subjective topics into objective ones cease shitstorms? Just ban the topic instead, don’t try to play judge.

Because locking a perfectly good topic because of one idiot spamming one of those arguments previously mentioned is a perfectly good idea.

And no, banning the idiot is out of the question because most people would just do it to get themselves banned and make us look like Green_Ninjas.



Except you have no right to choose what’s right and wrong. Your job is to stop flaming and fallacious posts, not decree what opinions you think are wrong false.

I didn’t tell you to ban anyone either.

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Here is another troll argument
The net in Mega Man Battle Network/Digimon is only earth sized at best


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Zechs Marquise wrote: I’m much more composed than you are right now. If one makes a decision with a cool head, he won’t find himself regretting that decision later on.

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EnemyOfDaState wrote:

Mikaboshi wrote: Don’t more sales = More fans which recognize the quality of it?


By your logic Game of Thrones is actually below Ed Edd and Eddy



And by your logic Fairy currently (As in 2013-2014) is the 9th best manga quality wise.



Fixed.


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Zeed wrote:

Quality Natsu wrote:

Zeed wrote:

Quality Natsu wrote:

Zeed wrote:

Leper Messiah wrote: Why not just let debators, I don’t know, debate?

These 'arguments' always end up in shitstorms.



And this topic will stop them?

It’ll not stop the arguments from appearing, but it may stop the storms.



The storms happen because they appear in the first place. Simply listing them seems like a trivial task that won’t do a thing.

My goal is that people would become familiar with them through this thread and (hopefully) learn to ignore them.



To a new member, you haven’t given any reason why they shouldn’t believe these claims.


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Natural lightning arguments are pretty annoying especially when the level of speed fits in the verse.

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GayAssFightingHero wrote:

Mikaboshi wrote: Don’t more sales = More fans which recognize the quality of it?


By your logic Game of Thrones is actually below Ed Edd and Eddy

Well then they’re right, because it is.


Tru Fax.


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Proto Dude wrote: Here is another troll argument
The net in Mega Man Battle Network/Digimon is only earth sized at best

A big one.

It’s not like Frontier has moons or anything.


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Avatard The Last Hairbender being even close to lightning lvl in speed
The characters consistently have trouble with fucking arrows, roflmfao


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Zechs Marquise wrote: I’m much more composed than you are right now. If one makes a decision with a cool head, he won’t find himself regretting that decision later on.

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Quality Natsu wrote:

Zeed wrote:

Quality Natsu wrote:

Zeed wrote:

Quality Natsu wrote:

Zeed wrote:

Leper Messiah wrote: Why not just let debators, I don’t know, debate?

These 'arguments' always end up in shitstorms.



And this topic will stop them?

It’ll not stop the arguments from appearing, but it may stop the storms.



The storms happen because they appear in the first place. Simply listing them seems like a trivial task that won’t do a thing.

My goal is that people would become familiar with them through this thread and (hopefully) learn to ignore them.



To a new member, you haven’t given any reason why they shouldn’t believe these claims.

Should I explain such reasoning in the OP then?


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Zeed wrote:

Proto Dude wrote: Here is another troll argument
The net in Mega Man Battle Network/Digimon is only earth sized at best

A big one.

It’s not like Frontier has moons or anything.


And its not like the Battle Network net is described as a parallel universe, and Duo.exe certainly did not prove there are cyberspace/foreign parts of it.


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Zechs Marquise wrote: I’m much more composed than you are right now. If one makes a decision with a cool head, he won’t find himself regretting that decision later on.

Edited 02-09-2014 05:21 PM by Shinji Ikari
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Tomie wrote: So, let me get this straight. Saying sales = quality is not a troll argument according to you mu?

Certain things sell for a reason, now in some mediums (TV and music mainly, but extends to film, games and other things) - something will come along and capture an audience and sell good for a while (Twilight) - if something consistently sells high, then it’s likely good. It’s a rather logical way to look at it, but doesn’t always work.


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GayAssFightingHero wrote: Certain things sell for a reason, now in some mediums (TV and music mainly, but extends to film, games and other things) - something will come along and capture an audience and sell good for a while (Twilight) - if something consistently sells high, then it’s likely good. It’s a rather logical way to look at it, but doesn’t always work.



I think I’m liable to agree to that. But, in recent years I dunno. Pop culture isn’t as compelling as it used to be for me.


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Mikaboshi wrote:

EnemyOfDaState wrote:

Mikaboshi wrote: Don’t more sales = More fans which recognize the quality of it?


By your logic Game of Thrones is actually below Ed Edd and Eddy



And by your logic Fairy currently (As in 2013-2014) is the 9th best manga quality wise.



Fixed.



But Fairy Fail is horrible. All though i do agree with you that Magi, One Piece, ATOT and Kuroko’s Basketball all have more quality then Naruto.


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Edited 02-09-2014 05:28 PM by E.O.S
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GayAssFightingHero wrote:

Tomie wrote: So, let me get this straight. Saying sales = quality is not a troll argument according to you mu?

Certain things sell for a reason, now in some mediums (TV and music mainly, but extends to film, games and other things) - something will come along and capture an audience and sell good for a while (Twilight) - if something consistently sells high, then it’s likely good. It’s a rather logical way to look at it, but doesn’t always work.

Well there are obviously shitty things that sell a lot. (Twilight, Nicki Minaj, Fairy Tail)
Then theres some quality that sells a lot. (Breaking Bad, Magi, The Wire)


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Tomie wrote:

GayAssFightingHero wrote: Certain things sell for a reason, now in some mediums (TV and music mainly, but extends to film, games and other things) - something will come along and capture an audience and sell good for a while (Twilight) - if something consistently sells high, then it’s likely good. It’s a rather logical way to look at it, but doesn’t always work.



I think I’m liable to agree to that. But, in recent years I dunno. Pop culture isn’t as compelling as it used to be for me.

Mainstream mediums are where popularity definitely =/= quality - i.e. pop music, Halo and Call of Duty, blockbuster films, etc. even anime


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EnemyOfDaState wrote:

Mikaboshi wrote:

EnemyOfDaState wrote:

Mikaboshi wrote: Don’t more sales = More fans which recognize the quality of it?


By your logic Game of Thrones is actually below Ed Edd and Eddy



And by your logic Fairy currently (As in 2013-2014) is the 9th best manga quality wise.



Fixed.



But Fairy Fail is horrible. All though i do agree with you that Magie, One Piece, ATOT and Kuroko’s Basketball all have more quality then Naruto.



I agree with almost everything you’ve mentioned except for AoT.

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Zeed wrote:

Quality Natsu wrote:

Zeed wrote:

Quality Natsu wrote:

Zeed wrote:

Quality Natsu wrote:

Zeed wrote:

Leper Messiah wrote: Why not just let debators, I don’t know, debate?

These 'arguments' always end up in shitstorms.



And this topic will stop them?

It’ll not stop the arguments from appearing, but it may stop the storms.



The storms happen because they appear in the first place. Simply listing them seems like a trivial task that won’t do a thing.

My goal is that people would become familiar with them through this thread and (hopefully) learn to ignore them.



To a new member, you haven’t given any reason why they shouldn’t believe these claims.

Should I explain such reasoning in the OP then?



Well yes. The reason I dislike this topics current state is that it basically leads up to people adding whatever they feel is a troll argument. Anything here should have sufficient proof to back up the fact that it’s a troll argument.


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Quality Natsu wrote:

Zeed wrote:

Quality Natsu wrote:

Zeed wrote:

Quality Natsu wrote:

Zeed wrote:

Quality Natsu wrote:

Zeed wrote:

Leper Messiah wrote: Why not just let debators, I don’t know, debate?

These 'arguments' always end up in shitstorms.



And this topic will stop them?

It’ll not stop the arguments from appearing, but it may stop the storms.



The storms happen because they appear in the first place. Simply listing them seems like a trivial task that won’t do a thing.

My goal is that people would become familiar with them through this thread and (hopefully) learn to ignore them.



To a new member, you haven’t given any reason why they shouldn’t believe these claims.

Should I explain such reasoning in the OP then?



Well yes. The reason I dislike this topics current state is that it basically leads up to people adding whatever they feel is a troll argument. Anything here should have sufficient proof to back up the fact that it’s a troll argument.

So far, most have been obvious though.

But, alright, I’ll add that to the OP.


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