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Nightmare, Sephiroth, and Dante vs. Laharl, Etna, and Flonne

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01-02-2007 11:44 PM
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I’ll post videos for the first team.

Nightmare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylsYBepwzv8

Sephiroth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9iT8r1gmzg

Dante: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1kgrJGqE24

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It really comes down to Sephiroth vs Laharl,Etna,and Flonne. Nightmare and Dante wouldn’t be able to survive the planet exploding. Laharl would have Etna and Flonne teleport off and then blow it up. If this is the original Sephiroth I don’t know how it would go. However if its the Sephiroth from Advent Children or Kingdom Hearts he loses. Laharl could take Dante and Etna could kill Nightmare. Flonne is the most useless here unless she summons a dragon. Dante is good but in a one on one fight he can’t beat Laharl. He has durability that allows him to survive a planet exploding and wiped out a fleet of battle ships armed with only a sword. Etna is devious,powerful, and a good fighter.Plus she has a legion of prinnies that she has no problem using as shields or weapons. Flonne is good for healing but not really for attacking. I think her holy arrows could affect them a little however.She could always summon a dragon to distract Sephiroth and then its Sephiroth vs these three.


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I wouldn’t Count Dante out that quick man, people claim he;s stronger then Vincent was, and Vincent could probably beat Cloud down, and Cloud is “supposedly” able to beat Sephiroth. I think Dante would be a good match for Flonne and Etna while Nightmare dies and Sephiorth takes on Laharl.

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I actually see Flonne summoning a dragon to hold off Sephiroth(of course for like a few seconds),it would probably then turn to Laharl and Flonne vs Dante. Dante is good but Laharl just seems way more powerful, he doesn’t use as many weapons as Dante and most of his power doesn’t come from artifacts(of course Dante is still awesome).Etna vs Nightmare is just a nobrainer,Etna is powerful and devious enough to beat Nightmare and knowing her she would probably through Prinnies at him. In the end I see it being Laharls team vs Sephiroth.


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I don’t think Flonne would even be fighting to be honest though, she doesn’t seem like the type to fight, chances are Laharl would tell her to sit to the side, Nightmare would be the first to go down easily. He’s strong, in Soul Caliber, compared to the other opponents in this fight, he’s weak *cept Flonne, she’s probably the weakest character in this match*

Etna could very well summon a Dragon to distract Sephiroth, but it wouldn’t last long enough for Laharl to even let out his maniacal laugh. In FF7 Sephiroth killed a giant Green Dragon in two hits of his Masamune, at that point he was only on level 50, he’s at least twice, if not three times as powerful at the end of the game. Etna’s Dragon would go in one sword swing, Laharl and his team wouldn’t have a chance to team up on Dante.

This probably means that the fights would break off into two smaller fights with Flonne curing Laharl and Etna when needed. Etna and her team might end up prevailing over Dante, but chances are she wouldn’t be in any condition to fight alongside Laharl, and Flonne would probably have been struck down by an annoyed Sephiroth at some point. That of course will have pissed Laharl off to no limits and drove him into a mad rage probably winding up with the destruction of the planet they were on.

That would pretty much be the end of the fight, with Sephiorth wondering why Laharl just blew up the planet before he could summon meteor. But in the end the destruction of the planet works to Sephiroth’s advantage. He absorbs the planet’s lost energy, (this was his plan in FF7, to cause an injury to massive to the planet that he could absorb the planet’s energy and become a God.) and becomes unstoppable.

If Laharl destroys the planet they’re on, he looses, if he doesn’t then he has a chance. That’s what this comes down to, more or less.

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Cid wrote: I don’t think Flonne would even be fighting to be honest though, she doesn’t seem like the type to fight, chances are Laharl would tell her to sit to the side, Nightmare would be the first to go down easily. He’s strong, in Soul Caliber, compared to the other opponents in this fight, he’s weak *cept Flonne, she’s probably the weakest character in this match*


Nah she doesn’t have a problem fighting. She even helps Laharl fight you in Disgaea 2. But yeah Nightmare and Flonne are the two weakest in this match.

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Etna could very well summon a Dragon to distract Sephiroth, but it wouldn’t last long enough for Laharl to even let out his maniacal laugh. In FF7 Sephiroth killed a giant Green Dragon in two hits of his Masamune, at that point he was only on level 50, he’s at least twice, if not three times as powerful at the end of the game. Etna’s Dragon would go in one sword swing, Laharl and his team wouldn’t have a chance to team up on Dante.


Actually now that I think about it, Etna and Flonne both summon dragons and Etna sends the Prinnies to distract Sephiroth. I know they stand no chance but hey its a good distraction.

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This probably means that the fights would break off into two smaller fights with Flonne curing Laharl and Etna when needed. Etna and her team might end up prevailing over Dante, but chances are she wouldn’t be in any condition to fight alongside Laharl, and Flonne would probably have been struck down by an annoyed Sephiroth at some point. That of course will have pissed Laharl off to no limits and drove him into a mad rage probably winding up with the destruction of the planet they were on.


You killed Flonne sad. And knowing my sexy devious Etna she would bring healing items with her.

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That would pretty much be the end of the fight, with Sephiorth wondering why Laharl just blew up the planet before he could summon meteor. But in the end the destruction of the planet works to Sephiroth’s advantage. He absorbs the planet’s lost energy, (this was his plan in FF7, to cause an injury to massive to the planet that he could absorb the planet’s energy and become a God.) and becomes unstoppable.


Damn you have a point. Thread creator whats the location of the fight? Are they on The Planet Sephiroths from(forgot if it was Earth or not) or Laharls netherworld or some other different place?

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If Laharl destroys the planet they’re on, he looses, if he doesn’t then he has a chance. That’s what this comes down to, more or less.


Pretty much.


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Manchester Black wrote: Nah she doesn’t have a problem fighting. She even helps Laharl fight you in Disgaea 2. But yeah Nightmare and Flonne are the two weakest in this match.



Yeah, but is she a strong fighter? Dante and Sephiorth could easily take care of any monsters she summoned, and I doubt Nightmare would be beaten by them either. He has been known to kill hundred of people at once. I just don’t see Flonne being as good of a fighter as she would be a healer in this match.

Manchester Black wrote: Actually now that I think about it, Etna and Flonne both summon dragons and Etna sends the Prinnies to distract Sephiroth. I know they stand no chance but hey its a good distraction.



lol, a good distraction indeed. But... I’d rather not see Laharl and Etna lose all their prinnies to Sephiroth, besides... if they all die, who’s gonna cook?

Manchester Black wrote: You killed Flonne sad. And knowing my sexy devious Etna she would bring healing items with her.



This is true, but it’s not like she’s gonna have an easy fight with Dante, especially if he transforms into his Demon form. At that form he could rival or even Surpass Etna’s abilities. The only reason I said Etna would win in the end was because she could be healed over and over.

Manchester Black wrote: Damn you have a point. Thread creator whats the location of the fight? Are they on The Planet Sephiroths from(forgot if it was Earth or not) or Laharls netherworld or some other different place?



It doesn’t matter too much, all planets have an inner energy. In FF7, it’s the life stream, in real life, it’s Earth’s Core. Either way, Sephiroth could absorb the excess energy. And if Laharl is really unlucky, Sephiroth might absorb the energy from Laharl’s attack.

Manchester Black wrote: Pretty much.



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Manchester Black wrote: I actually see Flonne summoning a dragon to hold off Sephiroth(of course for like a few seconds),it would probably then turn to Laharl and Flonne vs Dante. Dante is good but Laharl just seems way more powerful, he doesn’t use as many weapons as Dante and most of his power doesn’t come from artifacts(of course Dante is still awesome).Etna vs Nightmare is just a nobrainer,Etna is powerful and devious enough to beat Nightmare and knowing her she would probably through Prinnies at him. In the end I see it being Laharls team vs Sephiroth.


I don’t see anyway Etna or Flonne could damage Nightmare. His energy and sheer power can simply obliterate them. Read more to find out what kind of opponent this is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightmare_(Soul_Calibur)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Calibur_mystical_weapons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_%28Soul_Calibur%29

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Cid wrote: Yeah, but is she a strong fighter? Dante and Sephiorth could easily take care of any monsters she summoned, and I doubt Nightmare would be beaten by them either. He has been known to kill hundred of people at once. I just don’t see Flonne being as good of a fighter as she would be a healer in this match.


Flonnes fighting is at best exceptional. She sucks with that staff but is pretty good with the bow and arrow. But yeah she’s better as a healer and monster summoner.

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lol, a good distraction indeed. But... I’d rather not see Laharl and Etna lose all their prinnies to Sephiroth, besides... if they all die, who’s gonna cook?


Ah but prinnies can’t die they are just well incapacitated.

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This is true, but it’s not like she’s gonna have an easy fight with Dante, especially if he transforms into his Demon form. At that form he could rival or even Surpass Etna’s abilities. The only reason I said Etna would win in the end was because she could be healed over and over.


Trust me I know Dante is good as is Etna. She went from being Laharls vassal that wasn’t well known to one of the most feared Demon Lords in a short amount of time. I do agree though that Dante does probably surpass her once in demon form.

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It doesn’t matter too much, all planets have an inner energy. In FF7, it’s the life stream, in real life, it’s Earth’s Core. Either way, Sephiroth could absorb the excess energy. And if Laharl is really unlucky, Sephiroth might absorb the energy from Laharl’s attack.


He can absorb energy from attacks? Since when?

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This fight takes place in a completely empty realm with just one level.

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Soul Calibur wrote:
I don’t see anyway Etna or Flonne could damage Nightmare.


I don’t think Flonne can, Etna yes.

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His energy and sheer power can simply obliterate them. Read more to find out what kind of opponent this is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightmare_(Soul_Calibur)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Calibur_mystical_weapons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_%28Soul_Calibur%29


The reason I don’t see them being wiped out is because well ones a demon and the others a fallen angel and well none of the cast of Soul Caliber get wiped out when fighting him.


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Soul Calibur wrote: This fight takes place in a completely empty realm with just one level.


So would Sephiroth get his powerup if Laharl destroyed it?


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Oh and whos the main character? As revealed by Laharl main characters have it easy and if he’s not the main character some plot device will cause him to lose.


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Manchester Black wrote:
He can absorb energy from attacks? Since when?



He can absorb energy, that’s how he was going to absorb the life Stream. Life Stream is nothing more than Spirit Energy in it’s purest form, if you look at Japanese culture, Spirit Energy can often be extracted from one’s body and used as a weapon in the form of Ki. Which is basically what Laharl’s attacks are, so it wouldn’t be unreasonable to say that Sephiroth could absorb the energy from Laharl’s attack.

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Manchester Black wrote: Oh and whos the main character? As revealed by Laharl main characters have it easy and if he’s not the main character some plot device will cause him to lose.



I AM THE MAIN CHARACTER! (evil/maniacal laugh)

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Cid wrote:
He can absorb energy, that’s how he was going to absorb the life Stream. Life Stream is nothing more than Spirit Energy in it’s purest form, if you look at Japanese culture, Spirit Energy can often be extracted from one’s body and used as a weapon in the form of Ki. Which is basically what Laharl’s attacks are, so it wouldn’t be unreasonable to say that Sephiroth could absorb the energy from Laharl’s attack.


Damn this makes me want to play FF7.*Walks into room to play but soon remebers it was stolen,in rage attacks everyone in sight*


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Cid wrote:
I AM THE MAIN CHARACTER! (evil/maniacal laugh)


Laharl:I lost to Cid? But I never lose! Fine I’m just gonna blow up the planet!*Blows up planet.*


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Manchester Black wrote:

Cid wrote:
He can absorb energy, that’s how he was going to absorb the life Stream. Life Stream is nothing more than Spirit Energy in it’s purest form, if you look at Japanese culture, Spirit Energy can often be extracted from one’s body and used as a weapon in the form of Ki. Which is basically what Laharl’s attacks are, so it wouldn’t be unreasonable to say that Sephiroth could absorb the energy from Laharl’s attack.


Damn this makes me want to play FF7.*Walks into room to play but soon remebers it was stolen,in rage attacks everyone in sight*



Did you ever beat it?

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Manchester Black wrote:

Cid wrote:
I AM THE MAIN CHARACTER! (evil/maniacal laugh)


Laharl:I lost to Cid? But I never lose! Fine I’m just gonna blow up the planet!*Blows up planet.*



*wades through space endlessly*

“At least I didn’t die this time..."

*remembers humans can’t breathe in space let alone survive huge explosions and dies... again*

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Cid wrote: He can absorb energy, that’s how he was going to absorb the life Stream. Life Stream is nothing more than Spirit Energy in it’s purest form, if you look at Japanese culture, Spirit Energy can often be extracted from one’s body and used as a weapon in the form of Ki. Which is basically what Laharl’s attacks are, so it wouldn’t be unreasonable to say that Sephiroth could absorb the energy from Laharl’s attack.


He can absorb spiritual energy. He would be damaged by energy that is physical and destructive.

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