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Roronoa GoGon wrote:

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Roronoa GoGon wrote: Ussop is superior to shikamaru in endurance, durability,strength, Speed and he is a combat Genius. If they start 1km away from each other usopp snipes him no debate but a Close range combat I dont know. Physically ussop crushes shikamaru.



Hm, isn’t Shiki faster than Usopp speed wise?. Unless you mean Usopp’s projectile speed.


Speed wise both should be faster than the eye or supersonic around that Level.



Okay, but Usopp has never really shown anything special concerning speed (like moving speed, not reaction wise or projectile wise).

Also, can Shikimaru control pop-greens using their shadows?


Phew hard to tell but yea it could be possible. The Problem is usopps sleeping gas and the huge Explosion paired with his reactions. He wouldnt miss shikamaru and shikamaru wont tank more than 2 or 3 shots from Usopp. His Pop Greens arent necessary.



I’m thinking they might be necessary in case Shikimaru manages to get shadow possession on him. Even though he’ll be controlling Usopp, his pop-greens will already be all over the place and ready to cover for him.

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Alright, Tigger promoted you to thread mod, Roronoa GoGon. Enjoy.



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The rest I’ll leave to Roronoa’s discretion. Feel free to PM me, or Tigger, if you’ve got any concerns.


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da A.D.M.I.N. STOMPER wrote: Alright, Tigger promoted you to thread mod, Roronoa GoGon. Enjoy.

However, here’s some ground rules:


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  • Don’t stray off-topic


The rest I’ll leave to Roronoa’s discretion.

Thank you


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Yea thanks guys.


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Yea so to continue the debate with shikamaru vs ussop. I am totally convinced that ussop wins this battle. Does anyone agree with me or does someone have another view about this battle ? If yes, give me some arguments, why shikamaru would win this.


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Roronoa GoGon wrote: Yea so to continue the debate with shikamaru vs ussop. I am totally convinced that ussop wins this battle. Does anyone agree with me or does someone have another view about this battle ? If yes, give me some arguments, why shikamaru would win this.

Wouldn’t shikamaru be able to hold Ussop?


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Ussop takes it more times out of 10, it just really depends on the situation, but I see him taking it.

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Sir Casm wrote:

Roronoa GoGon wrote: Yea so to continue the debate with shikamaru vs ussop. I am totally convinced that ussop wins this battle. Does anyone agree with me or does someone have another view about this battle ? If yes, give me some arguments, why shikamaru would win this.

Wouldn’t shikamaru be able to hold Ussop?


Well if you have superior physical strength you can break out of his shadow jutsu and post skip usopp has shown a 1 ton+ strength feat while he was weakened by the etreme heat on punk hazard. A 1 ton+ feat is more than enough to break out.


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Roronoa GoGon wrote:

Sir Casm wrote:

Roronoa GoGon wrote: Yea so to continue the debate with shikamaru vs ussop. I am totally convinced that ussop wins this battle. Does anyone agree with me or does someone have another view about this battle ? If yes, give me some arguments, why shikamaru would win this.

Wouldn’t shikamaru be able to hold Ussop?


Well if you have superior physical strength you can break out of his shadow jutsu and post skip usopp has shown a 1 ton+ strength feat while he was weakened by the etreme heat on punk hazard. A 1 ton+ feat is more than enough to break out.

A summon from Pain can’t even break out also there’s different types of shadow jutsu and the one shikamaru used on that summon would kill Ussop easily.


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I undrestimated shikamaru. Well so usopp wins if there is a distance and if it is Close combat shikamaru wins.


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Roronoa GoGon wrote: I undrestimated shikamaru. Well so usopp wins if there is a distance and if it is Close combat shikamaru wins.

Yes if long distance usopp wins unless he can react in time which I think he wouldn’t be able to for he has no reaction speed feats or even speed feats


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Yea so lets move on. What was the next matchup ? Lucci vs kuchi ?=


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Roronoa GoGon wrote: Yea so lets move on. What was the next matchup ? Lucci vs kuchi ?=




I think this first match can go either way.

have no idea who would be faster in this situation, It depends really imo on Byakuyas use of his Bankai. The things that are gonna be Deadly to Lucci are Senkei and Gokei. Lucci has shown some serious durability as well though, and im pretty sure he will be able to dodge The petals. Rokuogan will definetly Do serious damage to Byakuya if he gets caught with it. Rankyakus will be of use. I think Lucci will rely heavily on Tekkai and Rankyaku in this. Idk how Tekkai would fare against the petals.

Its up in the air for me.


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lucci vs byakuya eh?
It would be a good match if it was the byakuya who fought bankai ichigo. Current byakuya is hyped to be quite a lot above his pre timeskip self.


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Bringer Light wrote: lucci vs byakuya eh?
It would be a good match if it was the byakuya who fought bankai ichigo. Current byakuya is hyped to be quite a lot above his pre timeskip self.



We cant use current byakuya imo, seeing as he has 0 feats. We should use Arrancar Arc Byakuya.

Should rely on feats and not hype.

If Byakuya catches Lucci in human form with his Bankai attacks like Senkei, or Gokei, then Lucci is probably going down.

If Lucci is in his Zoan form and Byakuya bankai’d, it will be a good fight.


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Lucci almost killed luffy with blunt damage. I dont think kuchi would be able to tank some hits from Lucci. I dont think Lucci is able to dodge but I dont think the petals will Bypass luccis tekkai. I mean bluenos tekkai is already above steel and Lucci is 5 times stronger in base. His devil fruit also enhances his tekkai. So I think Luccis Leopard form tekkai is around 10 times as strong as iron.


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Also bankai ichigo blitzed byakuya and I see gear 2 Luffy on the same Speed Level.


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I mean Baykuya doesnt have steel Skin and Lucci almost one shotted franky with a casual attack and franky has a massive steel plate on his front.


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Roronoa GoGon wrote: I mean Baykuya doesnt have steel Skin and Lucci almost one shotted franky with a casual attack and franky has a massive steel plate on his front.



Well, I think without Tekkai, Byakuya’s petals will hurt lucci. Shukei Haikuteiken wil be probably needed, so will Gokei, if Byakuya uses Senkei, there goes his main reason of defense, the petals.


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