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Hey Stardust, quick question.

Who from Bleach do you think would be a better match for Kisame?

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gothic lolita member wrote:

Zedkay101 wrote: I think Nnoitra would win because of the fact that Samaheda won’t be nearly as effective against a non chakra opponent. I also think that Nnoitra would win because of his hierro which would make it nearly impossible for Kisame to cut him.

Equalization.


I think it’s a bit hard to equalize chakra against reiatsu because they both work in different ways in their own verses.


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these fights are boring

do Shikamaru vs Usopp!!!

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Zedkay101 wrote:

gothic lolita member wrote:

Zedkay101 wrote: I think Nnoitra would win because of the fact that Samaheda won’t be nearly as effective against a non chakra opponent. I also think that Nnoitra would win because of his hierro which would make it nearly impossible for Kisame to cut him.

Equalization.


I think it’s a bit hard to equalize chakra against reiatsu because they both work in different ways in their own verses.


that and equalization does not give someone chakra


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Ladd Russo wrote: Hey Stardust, quick question.

Who from Bleach do you think would be a better match for Kisame?

R1 Ulquiorra, I guess.


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Rainbow Sakagami wrote: these fights are boring

do Shikamaru vs Usopp!!!

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We can only do one fight at a time


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Isnt ulqi too much for someone like Kisame ?


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Roronoa GoGon wrote: Isnt ulqi too much for someone like Kisame ?


How about Base Ulquiorra against Kisame


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Stardust wrote:

DeeWhyy wrote:

Uncle Fleece wrote: How about Nnoitra Vs. Kisame?

And Yeah lets try to avoid using featless characters.



Nnoitra high difficulty.

Many of Kisames attacks IIRC wont be able to put down Nnoitra in released.

Not sure what Nnoitra would do if its in the water,

If its on land, he takes it

If not or near a huge amount of water, kisame has a better chance.

Nnoitra has no good speed feats but Kisame on the otherhand was able to react and keep up with 7 gates Guy. And that was him at 30% chakra, which implies that he carries a lot of chakra and still able to use it efficiently even when low on stamina. Kisame was also able to nearly drown Bijuu Killer B in his water dome which is around the size of a mountain. Kisame wins with low difficulty regardless if on land or water.



Grimmjow Was Hypersonic+, powerscaling implys that Nnoitra is around that level.

7 Gates guy is Hypersonic IIRC.

Plus, if were equalizing Reaitsu and Chakra, we might as well equalize speed.

pretty sure Nnoitra has some sort of flight, he can escape from the water.

Kisame has no attacks that can put down Nnoitra in released form

Kisame has shown no good durability feats to imply that he can take several hits from a Released Nnoitra.

Hirudora is probably Multi Block-Multi Block+, which is where Nnoitra sits around in terms of DC potency.


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Roronoa GoGon wrote: Isnt ulqi too much for someone like Kisame ?

Well he can spam CO, and is capable of blitzing the likes of Vizard Ichigo.

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also guys better one fight and then another than no HST related fight anymore. I did that to give us all an opportunity to Keep debating about our beloved HST characters xD


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Zedkay101 wrote:

Roronoa GoGon wrote: Isnt ulqi too much for someone like Kisame ?


How about Base Ulquiorra against Kisame



Base Ulquiorra wins.


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DeeWhyy wrote:

Stardust wrote:

DeeWhyy wrote:

Uncle Fleece wrote: How about Nnoitra Vs. Kisame?

And Yeah lets try to avoid using featless characters.



Nnoitra high difficulty.

Many of Kisames attacks IIRC wont be able to put down Nnoitra in released.

Not sure what Nnoitra would do if its in the water,

If its on land, he takes it

If not or near a huge amount of water, kisame has a better chance.

Nnoitra has no good speed feats but Kisame on the otherhand was able to react and keep up with 7 gates Guy. And that was him at 30% chakra, which implies that he carries a lot of chakra and still able to use it efficiently even when low on stamina. Kisame was also able to nearly drown Bijuu Killer B in his water dome which is around the size of a mountain. Kisame wins with low difficulty regardless if on land or water.



Grimmjow Was Hypersonic+, powerscaling implys that Nnoitra is around that level.

7 Gates guy is Hypersonic IIRC.

Plus, if were equalizing Reaitsu and Chakra, we might as well equalize speed.

pretty sure Nnoitra has some sort of flight, he can escape from the water.

Kisame has no attacks that can put down Nnoitra in released form

Kisame has shown no good durability feats to imply that he can take several hits from a Released Nnoitra.

Hirudora is probably Multi Block, which is where Nnoitra sits around in terms of DC potency.


Has Nnoitra actually shown any flight feats?


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Zedkay101 wrote:

Rainbow Sakagami wrote: these fights are boring

do Shikamaru vs Usopp!!!

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We can only do one fight at a time



well than i vote Shikamaru vs Usopp will be next


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Zedkay101 wrote:

DeeWhyy wrote:

Stardust wrote:

DeeWhyy wrote:

Uncle Fleece wrote: How about Nnoitra Vs. Kisame?

And Yeah lets try to avoid using featless characters.



Nnoitra high difficulty.

Many of Kisames attacks IIRC wont be able to put down Nnoitra in released.

Not sure what Nnoitra would do if its in the water,

If its on land, he takes it

If not or near a huge amount of water, kisame has a better chance.

Nnoitra has no good speed feats but Kisame on the otherhand was able to react and keep up with 7 gates Guy. And that was him at 30% chakra, which implies that he carries a lot of chakra and still able to use it efficiently even when low on stamina. Kisame was also able to nearly drown Bijuu Killer B in his water dome which is around the size of a mountain. Kisame wins with low difficulty regardless if on land or water.



Grimmjow Was Hypersonic+, powerscaling implys that Nnoitra is around that level.

7 Gates guy is Hypersonic IIRC.

Plus, if were equalizing Reaitsu and Chakra, we might as well equalize speed.

pretty sure Nnoitra has some sort of flight, he can escape from the water.

Kisame has no attacks that can put down Nnoitra in released form

Kisame has shown no good durability feats to imply that he can take several hits from a Released Nnoitra.

Hirudora is probably Multi Block, which is where Nnoitra sits around in terms of DC potency.


Has Nnoitra actually shown any flight feats?



Tbh im really not quite sure, however, as a Espada, im pretty positive he has some sort of flight/levitation, considering even Fodder Shinigami have a sort of Pseudo flight.


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Rainbow Sakagami wrote:

Zedkay101 wrote:

Rainbow Sakagami wrote: these fights are boring

do Shikamaru vs Usopp!!!

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We can only do one fight at a time



well than i vote Shikamaru vs Usopp will be next


Me to


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I think ulquiorra even in base mode is too much for kisame. Nnoitra should be a perfect match up tbh.


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Roronoa GoGon wrote: I think ulquiorra even in base mode is too much for kisame. Nnoitra should be a perfect match up tbh.


I personally think that Released Nnoitra could defeat base Ulquiorra


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Zedkay101 wrote:

Roronoa GoGon wrote: I think ulquiorra even in base mode is too much for kisame. Nnoitra should be a perfect match up tbh.


I personally think that Released Nnoitra could defeat base Ulquiorra



It would be close.

While Bankai Hollow Ichigo was slightly above Released Grimmjow, Ulquiorra was more than slightly above Bankai Hollow Ichigo.

I think Ulquiorra would have trouble putting him down in his released forms, but if he can use a CO, he might be able to put him down.

But anyway, moving on.


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Yea I vote for nnoitra definitely after I thought about it. I see jiru as superior.


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