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07-18-2013 10:44 AM
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The Great One wrote:

Ether wrote:

The Great One wrote:

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The Great One wrote:

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The Great One wrote:
Yammamoto>Dangai ichigo>Aizen(Only becAuse of the fight situation

Since when?



When could ichigo ever withstand 15 mil? Even if he doesnt use the abillity directly(show the sun prision armor) its still activated. The momment he slashes his entire sword is gone. Yammamoto would easily rape dangai ichigo.

Since the amount of rei he had pre dangai laughs at Yamas. Since his rei was so much above beings that finger flick Yama to death.

Do you read BLEACH?



Your asking ME if i read bleach? ROFL..
Thats like asking a mother if she has a child.

Well then are you reading it wrong? Backwards? Upside down? You just pretty much implied that Royd could probably beat Post Dangai Ichigo since you think Yama rapes him.

No character has been shown to surpass dangai power as of yet and that’s a fact.

Tell me, how will ichigo win against yamm?

PD Ichigo’s spirit energy and reiatsu >>>>>>>>>>>> Bankai Yamas until proven otherwise.

Blitz, it’s off with his head.



HE CANNOT BEAT HIM. There tons of debates on here stating that yam beats ichigo. Ichigo can only use close combat.

You logic is the same thing as saying
A peak human can kill a human.
But a human cant kill a peak human.

HOW CAN DANGAI ICHIGO SURVIVE 15MIL? You still havent answered my question. His blade would be completely erased out of existence. If he tries to parry yammaotos blade will cut through and kill ichigo.



reiatsu disparity. yama in no way shape or form could even scratch or burn dangai ichigo. his attacks would not even register to said ichigo. ichigo flicks his wrist

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I’d like to hear these “Tons of arguments” as well.

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Permanently Unstable wrote: .. The one you just posted dude. The one in the latest chapter, where we can clearly compare the gates, which are no bigger than small to medium buildings, to Seireitei’s diameter.

I posted two pictures that showed different sizes. Then I posted about how size inconsistency exists in every manga.

Of course it took them some days to get to Rukia. They were trying to avoid fights with powerful people. When they did fight, they had to rest and recuperate. Not to mention the place was a maze.

They took a shortcut, led by Hanataro

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The Great One wrote: When?

Nevermind

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07-18-2013 11:10 AM
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Bringer Light wrote: Not necessary. Rieatsu is the only thing in which transcedentals are in a different dimension.

And its pretty obvious D.Ichigo is not strong enough to take a direct hit from ZnT or survive the core of the sun. He’ll be roasted right there.



I thought I already went over this with you BL.
FACTs

Magna-Z wrote:
BL has watched or read Bleach at some point but obviously didn’t comprehend anything about Rietsu for him to even think Yamamoto’s Bankai could put a scratch on Dangai Ichigo, which, respectively, is dumb to even think for so many reasons but I’ll just name 3.

1.Fodder Stern Ritters such as Loyd Royd has already tanked Yama’s 15 million`C heat using the Blut Vein. If PD Ichigo could not tank Yama’s bankai that would mean
-Fodder Stern Ritter>>>>>>Post Dangai Ichigo and transcended Aizen
which would be inconsistent and ridiculous.

2.Guess how Quincy use Blut Vein...
specificly stated in manga:“By absorbing Rietsu into there Veins”. Proving that a sufficient amount of Rietsu is able to shield you from high levels of heat and almost anything else cause in Bleach verse
-Rietsu>>>>>>>Star’s Core
And Transcended Beings have the most massive Rietsu in all of Bleach, so massive that it is stated to be within another dimension.

3.

Bringer Light wrote: D. Ichigo has never shown temperature durability.


A highly inaccurate comment.

5. Finally, Ichigo tanked Aizenís Fragor, which emitted a blast of pure heat strong enough to vaporize the landscape. He then emerged with a reddish arm that was nevertheless fully usable. Aizenís Fragor should be far above City-level. Yammamoto ShiKai was City-level.

The explosive force from Aizenís fragor had an appearance simuler to a nuclear bomb.Aizenís fragor vaporized mountains which were a great distance from impact site and also left a massive trench at impact site;Both of these feats dwarf even the most powerful nuclear bomb ever detonated on earth(Tsar bomb).Ichigo was standing in the core of the most powerful nuclear explosion ever created meaning Ichigo could have withstood from a minimum of 150,000,000-630,000,000 degrees f. or greater,suffering only a minor burn (a thermal nuclear bombís core temp rise to be over 10x hotter than the core of the sun).This is by far the greatest durability shown in the HST with Dangai Ichigoís upper-limits in durability still remaining unknown.



-not to mention, I don’t know exactly how much heat it takes to vaporize an entire sea instantly in seconds, it could be hundreds of thousands or possibly millions of degrees but Current Ichigo tanked it without the use of his Blut Vein. When Blut Vein is activated he can tank much higher temps up to 15 mil dgr`C, because Current Ichigo>>Loyd Royd And Current Ichigo is not even near as strong as transcended PD Ichigo.


And I can name more facts proving that Yamamoto’s Bankai can’t touch Dangai Ichigo.

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When did Fragor vaporise the landscape? All it did was create a mountain sized crater


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Bringer Light wrote: When did Fragor vaporise the landscape? All it did was create a mountain sized crater

There you go again assuming sizes

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One of Them wrote:

Bringer Light wrote: When did Fragor vaporise the landscape? All it did was create a mountain sized crater

There you go again assuming sizes

Destroying=/=Vaporising.

From where did this fragor being over 15 million thing come from?


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Bringer Light wrote:

One of Them wrote:

Bringer Light wrote: When did Fragor vaporise the landscape? All it did was create a mountain sized crater

There you go again assuming sizes

Destroying=/=Vaporising.

From where did this fragor being over 15 million thing come from?



RIGHT?


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07-18-2013 11:52 AM
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Yama wouldn’t be able hurt Ichigo.

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Bringer Light wrote:

One of Them wrote:

Bringer Light wrote: When did Fragor vaporise the landscape? All it did was create a mountain sized crater

There you go again assuming sizes

Destroying=/=Vaporising.

From where did this fragor being over 15 million thing come from?

So are you saying that the huge ass crater fragor left behind wasn’t caused by vaporization, but from simple destruction?

I think you should look up impact craters, Bringer Light. Goes for anybody who agrees with him as well.

That huge ass canyon fragor excavated was insane and there was no debris to be seen.

Edited 07-18-2013 12:09 PM by Atheist
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is Juubito truly even that fast?


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Yamas 15 million degrees cant even fucking vape the ground he is standing on. How the fuck is he hurting a guy who can tank an explosion tha vaporized hundreds of mountains in an instant?

And lol @ morons trying to say fraggor is anything bigger than it has shown, mountain level at best.

Godbito >>>> Naruto and OP top tiers >>> Bleach top tiers

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Hosan wrote: Yamas 15 million degrees cant even fucking vape the ground he is standing on. How the fuck is he hurting a guy who can tank an explosion tha vaporized hundreds of mountains in an instant?

And lol @ morons trying to say fraggor is anything bigger than it has shown, mountain level at best.

Godbito >>>> Naruto and OP top tiers >>> Bleach top tiers

Kunai > Juubito

Fragor > Kunai > Juubito

Chad with tree > Narutoverse


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Wow so much wank. First of all why was OP brought up I don’t have the faintest idea.

2nd Edit: BY Bringing in OP I mean it is not relevant to the topic at all. That’s all. Let’s just keep this a Naruto vs Bleach thread. Thanks.

So on topic:

For Juubito (pros and cons):

1) Jinchirikuu’s could fire small country BB’s at mach 140 (if accepting calcs)
2) This means that at the very least the Juubi can at least fire off small country+ BBs (simple powerscaling)
3) Juubito overall did not get any stronger (from what we have seen so far) except that all of its power became alot more focused. Hence increasing its speed and potency of its attacks.

So Juubito physical stats:

Speed: MHS(+)
DC: small country+ (spammable)
Aoe: small country+
Strength: Multi-mountan at the very least mountain+
Endurance: Not known yet (But easily the highest than anyone in Naruto by far)
Durability: Small country at the least
AP: So far has shown small country+ potent level attacks.

Possesses a wide variety of skills and abilities. So far Obito has not gained control of the Juubi so right now Juubito attacks pretty much on instinct. So its intelligence and use of strategy is greatly low (for now). This is its major weakness in the Naruto verse.

So for Mental capabilities:

Intelligence: Can learn techniques and skills quickly but isn’t really conscious of himself yet. Relies mostly on instinct to fight.

For Team 2( Yamamoto is only needed here I’ll explain why) (pros and cons):

Now for team 2 I will only be focusing on Yamamoto since for the transcendents all we know is that they are stronger than him but by an unknown large amount.

1) Yamamamoto in bankai has the best attack potency shown in the hst (sub-atomc level when all of his powers were focused on the edge of his sword)

2) His aoe in bankai is the greatest known so far in the hst (aoe=/= DC especially not in this case)- The Sun Shield

3) He has greater durability and speed. - Tanking his own Sun Shield (yes he will have some natural resistance to his own element but this still goes to show his immense fortitude). He is faster than Choujiro’s lightning Bankai obviously by a large factor.

So Yamamoto’s physical stats:

Speed: MHS+ (lightning timer)
DC: At least continent level (but this is pretty much suicide)- not spammable of course
Aoe: continent+ (radiation if he is not holding back or controlling it)
Strength: Medium island+ (if not more)
Endurance: Extremely high but putting an exact value on it right now is difficult.
Durability: Continent+ (to be able to tank his own Sun shield)
AP: Sub-atomic level. Via due to at those temperatures nuclear fusion occurs and that is sub-atomic.

From a physical standpoint so far Juubito only has DC and raw strength over Yamamoto. Every other stat is going to Yamamoto.

Now I don’t think I need to really get into the the mental, intelligence, and use of kidoh, etc. on this one but he pretty much wins the mental department hands down; for now anyways with Bleach ch.546 and Naruto ch.639.

And although Juubito has molecular level regen it will not help him going up against Yamamoto. And in Juubito’s favour he is still far from complete so this isn’t the end all be all.


So in the end I will give this to Yamammot 7 to 8 times out of 10.

Edit: Everything I have said for Yamamoto or the Juubi (concerns the Juubito greatly as well) can be found in the Naruto and Bleach discussion threads in the vs-general section.


@Hosan Narutard alert.


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> Chad reiatsu crushes Narutoverse
> Tree is overstimating them


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@DD what did ya think of my analysis for both of them?


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uhh the largest explosion Juubi has done inside the barrier didn´t vape the ground either. Proof that he has the AOE but not the DC.


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Honestly, they win if they attack him all at a time. Not individually though. (and this is assuming Juubito>Juubi)


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@Keishin: Juubi’s aoe and Dc are pretty equivalent. And also AP.

@BL: Yama alone can take this. Didn’t you read my post man?


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RyanBurnsTheHaruhiSuzumiyaFantard wrote: Prove me wrong


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Edited 07-18-2013 12:58 PM by NiTian ErXing a.k.a Grand Marshal

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