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[Reply] #81
06-20-2007 03:49 PM
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..that word means master of swordsmanship that shows what you know

what’re yo usaying! that doen’t mean anything! Afro is the numbe oner one warrior in the world he’s stronger and faster than kenshin and can take more damage than kenshin


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[Reply] #82
06-20-2007 05:58 PM
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DestinyGuy678 wrote: ..that word means master of swordsmanship that shows what you know

what’re yo usaying! that doen’t mean anything! Afro is the numbe oner one warrior in the world he’s stronger and faster than kenshin and can take more damage than kenshin



1. erm i posted that from an article Batosia the man slayer shows what you know.

2. Afro is not faster he cannot disappear Kenshin has doged Machine gun fire thats a hell of alot faster than a pistol, plus Kenshins name and style are about God like speed and how fast he draws his blade he is the faster not sure about stronger and he is more than a match in durability.

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..he didn’t dodge it the gun jammed and would have killed him if it hadn’t

read the freaking article it says master of sword! notice how manslayer is in quotes, it literaly means master of the sword


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[Reply] #84
06-20-2007 10:03 PM
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DestinyGuy678 wrote: ..he didn’t dodge it the gun jammed and would have killed him if it hadn’t

read the freaking article it says master of sword! notice how manslayer is in quotes, it literaly means master of the sword



1. you seem to use this alot but it counts for very little, in the series Kenshin has to personas 1 kind and true, the other Batosia the man slayer.

In that section of the story Kenshin is vunerabel due to useing his reverse bladed no killing policy, were as it was stated in Batosai he is a cold blooded killer and this reflects in his fighting style.

For the real deal you must look at the Batosia parts of his battles thats the true Kenshin were his true skill is revealed.

2. Im awear it says Kenshin is a master of the sword he mastered his styles wakness as well as its strenth, it comes down to they are both fast but Kenshin due to his training and style in actual fact would be ungodly faster than Afro because of his style.

Also as ive said in this fight its just them no Machine-Guns no Granades just Kenshin (a swords master,who is feared unbeatable) vs Afro who uses a well known style Kenshin would see through in a second and use a move of his that even if it misses it creates a gravity pull so strong it yanks the opponent inward and Kenshin nails them with the secondary swing.

(So it dousent matter how fast Afro is he cant avoid the gravity flux and would therefore be defeated).

[Reply] #85
06-21-2007 04:30 AM
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An interesting thing is Yoda is considerd the greatest swordsman in the galaxy...douse that make him the best?

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06-21-2007 08:08 AM
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in his universe yes (he could beat afro and kenshin)

next afro is faster than kenshin he has speed feats kenshin could never do, his moves are just namee he doesn’t actually move with that kind of speed, there are moves in martial arts like dragon fist, does that actually turn your hand ino a dragon, it’s just a move and a name

afro has dodged bullets has fought with people who would easily beat kenshin,

kenshin could never beat Justice or Jinno

Jinno-a sword master who uses two swords,he has cybernetic implants giving him super strength and super human speed,

Justice a zombie gunman with three arms


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[Reply] #87
06-21-2007 12:17 PM
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DestinyGuy678 wrote: in his universe yes (he could beat afro and kenshin)

next afro is faster than kenshin he has speed feats kenshin could never do, his moves are just namee he doesn’t actually move with that kind of speed, there are moves in martial arts like dragon fist, does that actually turn your hand ino a dragon, it’s just a move and a name

afro has dodged bullets has fought with people who would easily beat kenshin,

kenshin could never beat Justice or Jinno

Jinno-a sword master who uses two swords,he has cybernetic implants giving him super strength and super human speed,

Justice a zombie gunman with three arms



“sigh” well i feel no need to carry on this debate as clearly you wont accept Kenshins style is better and his speed is on par and provenly has a strong possability of being faster.

You say Afro has done things Kenshin could never do...like what???, ive posted how many feats you have posted nothing but words and opinion, here is another Kenshin is that fast he can cut an Item in half without it spliting for a few minites and you dont see him pull out his sword.

Also in Anime people do move at the speeds normal humans cannot Dragon fist in DBZ results in Shenron explodeing out of Gokus Fist lol, in Kenshins world he really is inhumanly fast with Godlike speed and if he was real would due to his Arts be the fastest swordsman alive.

Also why havent you defended any of the moves i said would kill Afro?, and a gunman and a double swordsman who are ubove human level is acommon thing for Kenshin he could beat them my freind in about a thousand different ways.

anyway ive posted my veiws and am disatisfied that Afro would have any chance against a proven master, Afro is fast he can cut bullets from the air but he lacks were it counts in a fight with Kenshin.

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06-21-2007 12:27 PM
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.. I was talking about a real move wise one, the show is based off reality, he didn’t give his character his super powers.

kenshin doesn’t have god-like speed,

afro has done the same only he ut a peson into millions of pieces and the person could still talk then he fell to pieces.

kenshin has neer dodged things as fast as bullets.

and kenshin couldn’t beat them, I’ve seen the anime they aren’t on kenshins level seeing as whe nhe jumps he flys, afro has blocked laser beams with his swords and cut missiles in half all things kenshin could not do since he was almost killed by a machine gun,

you haven’t proven anythin gbecause YOU DON’T LISTEN! all you do is post a whole bunch of moves off wikipedia or some other thing, this isn’t kenshins show where he wins every fight so you can’t use that as an excuse


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06-21-2007 01:41 PM
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The double swordsman wasn’t just a normal swordsman. He was cyberneticly enhanced to be fast and stronger than any normal human.

I doubt Kenshin fought a cyborg super soldier.

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06-21-2007 02:17 PM
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DestinyGuy678 wrote: .. I was talking about a real move wise one, the show is based off reality, he didn’t give his character his super powers.

kenshin doesn’t have god-like speed,

afro has done the same only he ut a peson into millions of pieces and the person could still talk then he fell to pieces.

kenshin has neer dodged things as fast as bullets.

and kenshin couldn’t beat them, I’ve seen the anime they aren’t on kenshins level seeing as whe nhe jumps he flys, afro has blocked laser beams with his swords and cut missiles in half all things kenshin could not do since he was almost killed by a machine gun,

you haven’t proven anythin gbecause YOU DON’T LISTEN! all you do is post a whole bunch of moves off wikipedia or some other thing, this isn’t kenshins show where he wins every fight so you can’t use that as an excuse



In the Anime Kenshin douse have God like speed its the only way he could possibly slash dozens of people multiple times without moveing in the blink of an eye, plus the moves ive posted could beat Afro by the pure mechanics of how they work.

Afro cant escape a gravity rift, (thats a move called Ubove God like Speed showing Kenshin is even faster than first thought, and draws so rapidly it creates a gravity pull between Kenshin and opponent another speed feat Afro cant preform.

Watch this Kenshin has already fought 2 battles back 2 back but this shows his speed and skill, at its fullest if Afro has fought a battle like this and showed more skill then he is the better swordsman.

Go to Google type kenshin ep 57 3/3, watch to episode 60.

[Reply] #91
06-21-2007 03:46 PM
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Totalitus wrote: The double swordsman wasn’t just a normal swordsman. He was cyberneticly enhanced to be fast and stronger than any normal human.

I doubt Kenshin fought a cyborg super soldier.



Kenshin has fought Imortals people who can withstand attacks that should tear normal men into peices no joke, he has taken on people who can perchive his moves and won, people who have made counters for all his moves he has beat, he has taken on the strongest swordsmen in his era 1 after another back to back without killing them and holding back and won!

Im sick of stateing his speed cus DG wont accept him as fast for some reason, as ive said there are two Kenshin 1 the wanderer who has chosen not to kill, he is still very skilled and wins most battles this way but is a gentle soul who holds back alot.
Batosai the man Slayer on the other hand is the better skilled of the personalitys able to kill without remorse and fight at his full potentiol without hesitation.

Speed Feats:

Can cut through things without moveing and they fall apart much later, can move so fast he can make himself invisable, can strike 9 times in 1 instant with a single move, can Avoid Machine Gun Fire to an extent, can use a move so quick it creates a gravity rift, can strike multiple oponents without appearing to move many times in an instant.

As for strenth Kenshins strikes can shatter sword’s even his close freind Sanoska’s Blade (it is the largest sword ever made, and thought impossible to Master due to its waight) Kenshin can deffend his attacks and slice it in two, he can slice large blocks of steel in half something only pro Samuria are belived to be able to do (Kenshin remarks he can do this at will).
Another feat is rippleing and indenting the ground when he strikes a show of brute power.

Most impressive is his skill tho his style is said to be unbeatable compared with other factions in that era, and he can prechive peoples actions and techniques just by watching there actions or seeing them attack once or twice.
Despite his strenth speed and power this is the main factor i belive Kenshin would win what ever Style Afro uses it origenated in Japan and was probably inferior to Kenshins style and would be known by Kenshin (the swords master)anyway.

Lastly Kenshin is by know means as weak as a normal man, if you watch those episodes i informed you of you will see why, his will and spirit if you will allow him to push himself beyond his limets and this makes others veiw him as Inhuman.
He has survived many fatal attacks and has been killed or on the brink of death more than once in the series as he states himself, his body is ridden with scars from death blows proveing he is durable as well as strong fast and skilled.

I think that did him justice lol

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06-21-2007 07:11 PM
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hahah!

but I se what you’re saying my fault I forgot about kenshin (it’s been a while)

however I think this fight would be close but land in afro’s favor

the 9 slices in a seconds is outdone by afros who cut Justice into hundreds of little pieces in a second

through steel? Afros has cut through cybornetic body armor

and afro has met his speed, kenshin has gone so fast that people couldn’t see him? Afro did that with robotic enemies (can see a whole lot better than people) and he dodged laser beam fire

plus that fight was similar to his fight with jinno, however afro proves do be more durable, he was punched through many boulders, slashes across the stomach, and punched by a cyborgs with super human strength later goes up to fight justice as if he’s in perfect condition o the other hand in kenshins fight you can see his injurries have taken there toll on him

dodge gun fire? afro’s father can dodge gun fire at point blank, afro who’s better didn’t give justice time enough to fire multiple shots, he cut in half a shotgun bullet with ease and dodged shots from it


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[Reply] #93
06-21-2007 07:47 PM
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DestinyGuy678 wrote: hahah!

but I se what you’re saying my fault I forgot about kenshin (it’s been a while)

however I think this fight would be close but land in afro’s favor

the 9 slices in a seconds is outdone by afros who cut Justice into hundreds of little pieces in a second

through steel? Afros has cut through cybornetic body armor

and afro has met his speed, kenshin has gone so fast that people couldn’t see him? Afro did that with robotic enemies (can see a whole lot better than people) and he dodged laser beam fire

plus that fight was similar to his fight with jinno, however afro proves do be more durable, he was punched through many boulders, slashes across the stomach, and punched by a cyborgs with super human strength later goes up to fight justice as if he’s in perfect condition o the other hand in kenshins fight you can see his injurries have taken there toll on him

dodge gun fire? afro’s father can dodge gun fire at point blank, afro who’s better didn’t give justice time enough to fire multiple shots, he cut in half a shotgun bullet with ease and dodged shots from it



Hope you watched the fight i recomended lol.

1. No DG think about it Afro cut that dude into tiny peices correct but preformed many slashes, Kenshin can attack nine times with but 1 slash.

2. That is impressive but im talking about a crate sized peice of steel like butter that takes alot of strenth and technique.

3. Indeed i think Afro is really quick, but Kenshins enemy Shjiro was alot faster than Kenshin but Kenshin could read his style and emotions in battle to know exactly what move he was going to make, its cus he is a master swordsman he can tell a mans next move just by looking at there stance and the slightest move.

Next Kenshin actualy decided to use Hiten Mitsurugi and Sujiro noted that his stance was one were with the slightest slip would end in his death, it was a one shot gamble witch Kenshin matched his speed in (showing he is the fastest) and defeated the boy’s best move perposefuly not killing him.

Shujiro was mostly amazed because Kenshin was able to deliver such a complex move at equil speed already worn out and injured from another battle and deliberatly avoided killing him, he says his skill truely is Inhuman.

So Afro may be as fast as Kenshin but Kenshin dousent require his speed even to beat an opponent useing all of his, Kenshin can read Afros style and use his own witch is still reknown for being the quickest.

4. Kenshin had fought 3 or more powerful Samuria to get there and his final Oponent was the strongest and was freash of the bat, he was worn out had used alot of his stamina and was basicaly fighting on his will alone he was at deaths door almost, he speaks about how his body is dieing at the end and he cant even move but he manages to summon his final attack and still stand.

But as for endurance his enemy slashes him with his intence fire blade and it scraches Kenshin everyone is amazed saying that he should be ripped apart and he deffinately isnt human (his enemys heat is at its maximum at this point and the intensity of his blade is huge).

But yeah Afro can survive alot also, so if you think Afro wins thats up 2 u its your opinion i cant garentee Kenshins victory as they havent fought each other, but id say its highly likely Kenshin would win this fight not as a fan but ranking abilitys.

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06-21-2007 08:23 PM
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...ok...when faced wit hthis kind of situation...we say TIEsmiley

it’d be a cool fight though,,,something that’d be too cool for tv...I can see the story though

kenshin hears about a warrior on the top of the mountain who is leading people even in the modern age to seek the sword to murder and kill with no honor, so to finally end the age of swords and stuff he finds the number two headband and goes off to challenge afro, however before he gets to fight afro he is blocked off by justice (he’s still alive being cut into those little pieces didn’t kill him) He fights with Jinno and is shot and needs medical attention, he is advised that if he wants to fight afro he will have to let go of the honor that left with the meiji era...(ok lets just say kenshin is somehow in the modern times in afro’s world) and he would need to reawaken the batosai, kenshin doesn’t want to and feels that honor should be held above all or he’d be no better than all the other trash that call themselves swordsmen, He face Justice again this time knowing about justice’s guns flys forward ealizing justice’s weakness is upclose combat, ever so he is shot another time in the shoulder and he goes crazy unleashing the batosai and defeating justice with ease, he continues up the mountain in this state to find afro sitting on a rocks meditating, he goes into some speech about honor and murder and era’s and afro gives his peace about how the type of power could bring about peace amoung warriors. kenshin then sees it fit to take it from him and they fight super fast flying through rocks and what not. kenshin then uses that technique hats super fast with the gravitational pull, afro manages t oblock it but is sent flying through the air and his sword is broken, he grabs an old rusty sword that was left by one of the other dead warriors on that mountain, however kenshins bullet wound gets to him and he faints afro touched by kenshins speech grabs all of the head bands and burns them and rips the number one heads band in half and wraps one around kenshins sword hilt


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06-21-2007 08:48 PM
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DestinyGuy678 wrote: ...ok...when faced wit hthis kind of situation...we say TIEsmiley

it’d be a cool fight though,,,something that’d be too cool for tv...I can see the story though

kenshin hears about a warrior on the top of the mountain who is leading people even in the modern age to seek the sword to murder and kill with no honor, so to finally end the age of swords and stuff he finds the number two headband and goes off to challenge afro, however before he gets to fight afro he is blocked off by justice (he’s still alive being cut into those little pieces didn’t kill him) He fights with Jinno and is shot and needs medical attention, he is advised that if he wants to fight afro he will have to let go of the honor that left with the meiji era...(ok lets just say kenshin is somehow in the modern times in afro’s world) and he would need to reawaken the batosai, kenshin doesn’t want to and feels that honor should be held above all or he’d be no better than all the other trash that call themselves swordsmen, He face Justice again this time knowing about justice’s guns flys forward ealizing justice’s weakness is upclose combat, ever so he is shot another time in the shoulder and he goes crazy unleashing the batosai and defeating justice with ease, he continues up the mountain in this state to find afro sitting on a rocks meditating, he goes into some speech about honor and murder and era’s and afro gives his peace about how the type of power could bring about peace amoung warriors. kenshin then sees it fit to take it from him and they fight super fast flying through rocks and what not. kenshin then uses that technique hats super fast with the gravitational pull, afro manages t oblock it but is sent flying through the air and his sword is broken, he grabs an old rusty sword that was left by one of the other dead warriors on that mountain, however kenshins bullet wound gets to him and he faints afro touched by kenshins speech grabs all of the head bands and burns them and rips the number one heads band in half and wraps one around kenshins sword hilt



Sure why not i havent got a problem with that, and Afro is one bad mother, may Kenshin R.I.P in Anime heaven (he dies at the end of REFLECTION’S OVA).

If Afro wanted to fight someone to the death it would have to be Kenji Kenshin (Shinta’s) son who was also trained in the Arts of Hiten Misurugi in order to find true strenth and make a greater Legend than his farther who he neglects.

Kenji is said to be arogant and the creator said one day he might wright a follow up staring Kenji but he would be cold and sadistic unlike his father.

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..oh then he WOULD want to be the number one swordsman...but that would leave little for the rest of the story, how does kenshin die?


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06-21-2007 09:46 PM
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well shortly after his son is born Kenshin still feels he hasnt earned his right to live in peace (5-6 years after series) he then leaves to wander after backing from kouru and promises to come back.

He wanders for 15yrs helping to defend the Maji Goverment swearing not to kill, somewere along the line he contracts a fatal disease of witch there is no cure and his death is certain to come sooner of later.

Kouru shears his pain by sleeping with him and catching the disease herself to take on some of the burden so Kenshin isnt alone in his pain.

Kenji grows to dispise his farther and sets of to learn true strenth and see why his farther left him and his mother alone, he learns the error of his ways from Kenshins pupil and learns Kenshins strenth and what he fights for, he then returns home to help his ill mother Inashi hands him the reverse bladed sword as a gift of comeing of age just like Kenshin did for him.

Eventualy Kenshin is taken home by Sanoska who finds him a shadow of his formerself unable to remember who he is or catch a peaice of meat on a stick, this pains him to see so he packs him of home saying “there is nothin left here for you my freind go, go to Kouru”

Kenshin arrives home struggling and finds Kouru waiting, he dies in her arms smileing as she calls him by his true name Shinta free from his dark past as Kenshin the X on his cheek is gone and he is finely free at peace smileing with Kouru crying over him.

It finaly shows Kenji sometime later with his wife stoping nat the spot he died he feels a breeze and smiles then walks of happy into the sunset with his wife.

R.I.P Himari Shinta, and gd luck to his son in makeing a greater Legend to make his farther proud.

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9 attacks with one slash is impossible. It must have just seen like one but was actually 9.

[Reply] #99
06-21-2007 10:05 PM
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Lol nope its his technique told u Kenshin is Inhumen:

The “Nine-Headed Dragon” is a formidable technique which utilizes Shinsoku (lit. God-speed) to the fullest extent; dealing nine strikes to the most fundamental targets of swordsmanship (Kara Take, Kesa Giri, Saka Gesa, Hidari Nagi, Migi Nagi, Hidari Kiriage, Migi Kiriage, Saka Kaze, and Tsuki), all at the same time. These points are the key to the technique as they make up the basis of one’s guarding stance, regardless of style or weapon. So with the Kuzu-ryu sen, attacking all nine all at once, guarding and dodging becomes virtually pointless. Unlike the multiple strike attack, Ryu sen, all nine strikes of the Kuzu-ryu sen carry lethal force.

Its desighned to get past any stance.

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06-22-2007 08:45 AM
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just thought id say im watching the series and in Episode 5 he blocks a bullet just fine

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