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I know it varies but does anyone have a solid answer on the average speed? According to this site they claim it can move 224,000 but idk if its right or not.

http://www.komonews.com/weather/asksteve/4347976.html


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270,000 MPH.

Mach 352.

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It fluctuates actually but faster than sound that much is for certain.


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ChapStick wrote: 270,000 MPH.

Mach 352.



lol no.

it can move between 1/5th to 1/2 the speed of light.


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Shoddragon wrote:

ChapStick wrote: 270,000 MPH.

Mach 352.



lol no.

it can move between 1/5th to 1/2 the speed of light.



Actually, yes.

It fluctuates, but that is a more consistent speed than less.

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10-28-2010 10:19 PM
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Well, being a Physics science guy- I’ll let you know-

it depends on what you mean of the lighting. Phase velocity can exceed the speed of light, but that is irrelevant as that is just wave mechanics.

Now, lighting at it’s fastest can go right about the speed of light- but at that point one does not consider it “lightning”
..it’s only occurrences is the phenomenon known as “killer electrons”, and perhaps the red sprites and blue jetsthat take place in the far upper atmosphere, which are not traditional lighting- but still considered it.


Outside of that- actual electrical current can be slowed to a crawl- it is variable, indeed.


Is is faster than light? unfortunately, electrons have mass, and that is a sort of huge hindrance, technical terms and conditions aside. However, extreme cases do have the electron flow moving “extremely close”- and this is threat, because these particles do not treat satelite shielding well. How do they get up that speed? Electrical-magnetic processes are the cause.

I know that the odds of any of you being Science Majors in college are slim so I will stop. I have mentioned this before on this site, though.

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Depends what part of the bolt. The leader bolt travels at around 136,000 miles per hour, but the return stroke can be anywhere between 62 million miles per hour (1) to 334 (approx) million miles per hour (2).


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Tyreaus wrote: Depends what part of the bolt. The leader bolt travels at around 136,000 miles per hour, but the return stroke can be anywhere between 62 million miles per hour [url=http://www.ucar.edu/communications/factsheets/Lightning.html](1)[/url] to 334 (approx) million miles per hour [url=http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_speed_of_lightning](2)[/url].

^
And even this has variance depending on the conditions.

The higher the altitude, and the higher the electrical pressure, the faster.


for reference, Lightning at speeds using Ty’s 2nd mark are faster than Light can travel through diamond. This is over 100,000 miles a second, for reference.

Light goes at 670 Million mph, uninhibited.

Why can lightning move at these speeds? Well, because while electrons have mass, they have a relatively low mass. Also, electrical-magnetic fields can speed them up. Sometimes this occures naturally.


Since this is being used in the context of fiction- I feel the need to add that I have never seen lightning in fiction actually portrayed as moving anywhere near the higher end. Then again fiction does not concern itself with that. For example- no fictional show will show you that lightning has multiple strokes occuring at high speeds.

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Tys to Tips wrote:

Tyreaus wrote: Depends what part of the bolt. The leader bolt travels at around 136,000 miles per hour, but the return stroke can be anywhere between 62 million miles per hour (1) to 334 (approx) million miles per hour (2).

^
And even this has variance depending on the conditions.

The higher the altitude, and the higher the electrical pressure, the faster.


for reference, Lightning at speeds using Ty’s 2nd mark are faster than Light can travel through diamond. This is over 100,000 miles a second, for reference.

Light goes at 670 Million mph, uninhibited.

Why can lightning move at these speeds? Well, because while electrons have mass, they have a relatively low mass. Also, electrical-magnetic fields can speed them up. Sometimes this occures naturally.


Since this is being used in the context of fiction- I feel the need to add that I have never seen lightning in fiction actually portrayed as moving anywhere near the higher end. Then again fiction does not concern itself with that. For example- no fictional show will show you that lightning has multiple strokes occuring at high speeds.



Fiction also has the issue of breaking traditional laws of lightning induction on more than one occasion. Isn’t it correct that lightning will, traditionally, go for the path of least resistance (and, subsequently, the closest and more positively charged object)? Usually being the ground...
If anything fiction in lightning simply seems to be a collection of electrons rather than an actual lightning bolt, in which case the speeds can be insanely slow.

Eh maybe that’s just me overthinking it too, I don’t know.


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Tyreaus wrote:

Tys to Tips wrote:

Tyreaus wrote: Depends what part of the bolt. The leader bolt travels at around 136,000 miles per hour, but the return stroke can be anywhere between 62 million miles per hour (1) to 334 (approx) million miles per hour (2).

^
And even this has variance depending on the conditions.

The higher the altitude, and the higher the electrical pressure, the faster.


for reference, Lightning at speeds using Ty’s 2nd mark are faster than Light can travel through diamond. This is over 100,000 miles a second, for reference.

Light goes at 670 Million mph, uninhibited.

Why can lightning move at these speeds? Well, because while electrons have mass, they have a relatively low mass. Also, electrical-magnetic fields can speed them up. Sometimes this occures naturally.


Since this is being used in the context of fiction- I feel the need to add that I have never seen lightning in fiction actually portrayed as moving anywhere near the higher end. Then again fiction does not concern itself with that. For example- no fictional show will show you that lightning has multiple strokes occuring at high speeds.



Fiction also has the issue of breaking traditional laws of lightning induction on more than one occasion. Isn’t it correct that lightning will, traditionally, go for the path of least resistance (and, subsequently, the closest and more positively charged object)? Usually being the ground...
If anything fiction in lightning simply seems to be a collection of electrons rather than an actual lightning bolt, in which case the speeds can be insanely slow.

Eh maybe that’s just me overthinking it too, I don’t know.

You are quite accurate with this, actually.
IT comes down to things from conductivity of the area, to resistance ,, propogation, current, the electromagnetic wave vs actual electron speed(which often is not fast at all, though on the far end it is indeed very fast) etc , etc


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fast...u guys said everything about it already


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About as fast as my 5.0


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My fucking god Hao (ha get it? “god Hao” tounge) your fucking chicks there are hot, ESPECIALLY the one in the middle sig, and avy is nice.

Is that a Bollywood chick in your avy or something?


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Just typed hot babes insert:Assian, Black, Indian and Latina and search my forum babes

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10-29-2010 06:32 AM
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dont worry. you still have sex much faster than a lightning bolt.

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lolipops wrote: dont worry. you still have sex much faster than a lightning bolt.



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how fast is a lightnign bolt?????????

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