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Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs

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J peth wrote:

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FalseMemorySyndrome wrote:

J peth wrote:

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J peth wrote: the thing is... hitler wasn’t “fucked up” he actually just said and did what the majority wanted to gain power...



He didn’t really gain power...He was given it by the german chancellor at the time in an attempt to calm him and the National Socialist party.

We’re covering it in history wink


What kind of history class is this? Standard high school history or is this some university course?



Privet secoundry school standred. GCSE course.

We’re focusing on how Hitler came to power and how he managed to exact complete control over 30’s Germany basicly overnight. I find learning about dictatorship a lot more interesting then learning about wars :/


my point is it’s not “fucked up"if you have people in the majority that are sayind “do it”. like osama didn’t have other countries all over the world sayind “dude, bomb america!" while hiter DID have people all over the world saying “dude, KILL THOSE DAMNED JEWS! make the christ killers suffer!"

as most of europe, the entire middleast almost, and half of america were anti-jews.... hitler even had the support of the vatican.



Germany was already anti-semitic years before the Hitler even joined the National Socialist party. All he did was play on this hostility and use properganda to increase it.

And remeber that it wasn’t just the Jews who were recieving hatred worldwide. The communists were being blamed for almost everything in Berlin, the gypsys were being prosicuted; all Hitler did was use this hatred to gather votes.


exactly
but it wasn’t morally wrong at the time..

so no one really cared about the holocaust until AFTER the war...

with bin laden, he immediately was hated by several countries.



Added to that Bin Laden had also gained lots of supporters all around the world. I mean I hear more about terrorist attacks than anything about silly Neo-Nazis.


but in society’s eyes it’s wrong...

hitler never had society thinking he was evil for the holocaust...



Do you mean today, or back then when Allied nations decided the partially stand up for what’s right and put Nazi Germany down?


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theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


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J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


So do you think Hitler was going jus take over europe and jus stop right there? He would have gotten greedy and tried to take over the rest of the world’s countries. Men like him would have never stopped.

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theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


So do you think Hitler was going jus take over europe and jus stop right there? He would have gotten greedy and tried to take over the rest of the world’s countries. Men like him would have never stopped.



True that, I’d say if the Allied Powers did not come to together, frankly the US would have probably been the only Nation left that could possibly stand against Nazi Germany and the Axis. Most other countries had people but at best only had single fire rifles and horse calvary... Even the US had a force like that at the beginning of the war.


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Jaykaze wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


So do you think Hitler was going jus take over europe and jus stop right there? He would have gotten greedy and tried to take over the rest of the world’s countries. Men like him would have never stopped.



True that, I’d say if the Allied Powers did not come to together, frankly the US would have probably been the only Nation left that could possibly stand against Nazi Germany and the Axis. Most other countries had people but at best only had single fire rifles and horse calvary... Even the US had a force like that at the beginning of the war.


Sooo true!

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theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


So do you think Hitler was going jus take over europe and jus stop right there? He would have gotten greedy and tried to take over the rest of the world’s countries. Men like him would have never stopped.


who said i said he’d stop?
i never said that...

but who says it’s wrong that he’d take it over? who are you to say it’s wrong, if he did. then i’d say he earned it. that’s the thing about war.. if you win, you deserve the victory... if you lose, you obviously didn’t deserve what you were trying to achieve.


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J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


So do you think Hitler was going jus take over europe and jus stop right there? He would have gotten greedy and tried to take over the rest of the world’s countries. Men like him would have never stopped.


who said i said he’d stop?
i never said that...

but who says it’s wrong that he’d take it over? who are you to say it’s wrong, if he did. then i’d say he earned it. that’s the thing about war.. if you win, you deserve the victory... if you lose, you obviously didn’t deserve what you were trying to achieve.


So ur saying if hitler won that he deserved to take over everything?

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theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


So do you think Hitler was going jus take over europe and jus stop right there? He would have gotten greedy and tried to take over the rest of the world’s countries. Men like him would have never stopped.


who said i said he’d stop?
i never said that...

but who says it’s wrong that he’d take it over? who are you to say it’s wrong, if he did. then i’d say he earned it. that’s the thing about war.. if you win, you deserve the victory... if you lose, you obviously didn’t deserve what you were trying to achieve.


So ur saying if hitler won that he deserved to take over everything?



Well, its a dog eat dog world. The weak die and the strong live. If Hitler wanted the world hard enough and won, then he obviously deserved it. However, from a morally fueled stand point, he does not. Someone so morally incorrect doesn’t deserve such power.


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Jaykaze wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


So do you think Hitler was going jus take over europe and jus stop right there? He would have gotten greedy and tried to take over the rest of the world’s countries. Men like him would have never stopped.


who said i said he’d stop?
i never said that...

but who says it’s wrong that he’d take it over? who are you to say it’s wrong, if he did. then i’d say he earned it. that’s the thing about war.. if you win, you deserve the victory... if you lose, you obviously didn’t deserve what you were trying to achieve.


So ur saying if hitler won that he deserved to take over everything?



Well, its a dog eat dog world. The weak die and the strong live. If Hitler wanted the world hard enough and won, then he obviously deserved it. However, from a morally fueled stand point, he does not. Someone so morally incorrect doesn’t deserve such power.


I understand what ur coming from but that still seems so wrong

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Jaykaze wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


So do you think Hitler was going jus take over europe and jus stop right there? He would have gotten greedy and tried to take over the rest of the world’s countries. Men like him would have never stopped.


who said i said he’d stop?
i never said that...

but who says it’s wrong that he’d take it over? who are you to say it’s wrong, if he did. then i’d say he earned it. that’s the thing about war.. if you win, you deserve the victory... if you lose, you obviously didn’t deserve what you were trying to achieve.


So ur saying if hitler won that he deserved to take over everything?



Well, its a dog eat dog world. The weak die and the strong live. If Hitler wanted the world hard enough and won, then he obviously deserved it. However, from a morally fueled stand point, he does not. Someone so morally incorrect doesn’t deserve such power.


exactly.... as it stands

personal level: i’m glad he didn’t win, he doesn’t deserve such power as too me he wouldn’t be a good ruler of the world...

unbiased level: if you win the war, and EARN your rewards... who’s to say anything against you? you did what you had to... you beat them.. you win.. .and so you are the victor... as the say “whoever wins the war is in the right”


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Hitler still caused way more deaths directly and indirectly than Bin Laden. In the end, I guess that answers the question who is more f-ed up.

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J peth wrote:

Jaykaze wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


So do you think Hitler was going jus take over europe and jus stop right there? He would have gotten greedy and tried to take over the rest of the world’s countries. Men like him would have never stopped.


who said i said he’d stop?
i never said that...

but who says it’s wrong that he’d take it over? who are you to say it’s wrong, if he did. then i’d say he earned it. that’s the thing about war.. if you win, you deserve the victory... if you lose, you obviously didn’t deserve what you were trying to achieve.


So ur saying if hitler won that he deserved to take over everything?



Well, its a dog eat dog world. The weak die and the strong live. If Hitler wanted the world hard enough and won, then he obviously deserved it. However, from a morally fueled stand point, he does not. Someone so morally incorrect doesn’t deserve such power.


exactly.... as it stands

personal level: i’m glad he didn’t win, he doesn’t deserve such power as too me he wouldn’t be a good ruler of the world...

unbiased level: if you win the war, and EARN your rewards... who’s to say anything against you? you did what you had to... you beat them.. you win.. .and so you are the victor... as the say “whoever wins the war is in the right”



Yup, yup~ As many people have said, “War is war."


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J peth wrote:

Jaykaze wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


So do you think Hitler was going jus take over europe and jus stop right there? He would have gotten greedy and tried to take over the rest of the world’s countries. Men like him would have never stopped.


who said i said he’d stop?
i never said that...

but who says it’s wrong that he’d take it over? who are you to say it’s wrong, if he did. then i’d say he earned it. that’s the thing about war.. if you win, you deserve the victory... if you lose, you obviously didn’t deserve what you were trying to achieve.


So ur saying if hitler won that he deserved to take over everything?



Well, its a dog eat dog world. The weak die and the strong live. If Hitler wanted the world hard enough and won, then he obviously deserved it. However, from a morally fueled stand point, he does not. Someone so morally incorrect doesn’t deserve such power.


exactly.... as it stands

personal level: i’m glad he didn’t win, he doesn’t deserve such power as too me he wouldn’t be a good ruler of the world...

unbiased level: if you win the war, and EARN your rewards... who’s to say anything against you? you did what you had to... you beat them.. you win.. .and so you are the victor... as the say “whoever wins the war is in the right”


Ur right. Hitler is still worst than Osama in my book

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theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

Jaykaze wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


So do you think Hitler was going jus take over europe and jus stop right there? He would have gotten greedy and tried to take over the rest of the world’s countries. Men like him would have never stopped.


who said i said he’d stop?
i never said that...

but who says it’s wrong that he’d take it over? who are you to say it’s wrong, if he did. then i’d say he earned it. that’s the thing about war.. if you win, you deserve the victory... if you lose, you obviously didn’t deserve what you were trying to achieve.


So ur saying if hitler won that he deserved to take over everything?



Well, its a dog eat dog world. The weak die and the strong live. If Hitler wanted the world hard enough and won, then he obviously deserved it. However, from a morally fueled stand point, he does not. Someone so morally incorrect doesn’t deserve such power.


exactly.... as it stands

personal level: i’m glad he didn’t win, he doesn’t deserve such power as too me he wouldn’t be a good ruler of the world...

unbiased level: if you win the war, and EARN your rewards... who’s to say anything against you? you did what you had to... you beat them.. you win.. .and so you are the victor... as the say “whoever wins the war is in the right”


Ur right. Hitler is still worst than Osama in my book



I frankly stand between them. Both generally hated or still hate everyone outside their inner circle.


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donkoehler wrote: Hitler still caused way more deaths directly and indirectly than Bin Laden. In the end, I guess that answers the question who is more f-ed up.


no....

as bin laden MURDERED them....

but hitler was at war... so the deaths were unavoidable...


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J peth wrote:

donkoehler wrote: Hitler still caused way more deaths directly and indirectly than Bin Laden. In the end, I guess that answers the question who is more f-ed up.


no....

as bin laden MURDERED them....

but hitler was at war... so the deaths were unavoidable...



But, what about the people who were taken to POW camps and killed in gas chambers. I mean I understand if millions of people died in skirmishes between the Allied and the Axis, however these people were taken from their towns and villages long time away from when actual battles reached their soil.


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J peth wrote:

donkoehler wrote: Hitler still caused way more deaths directly and indirectly than Bin Laden. In the end, I guess that answers the question who is more f-ed up.


no....

as bin laden MURDERED them....

but hitler was at war... so the deaths were unavoidable...


The Holocaust anyone? Yeah Hitler still beats Bin Laden in non-war death counts.

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Jaykaze wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

Jaykaze wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

J peth wrote:

theamazingRenzy wrote:

Weeman wrote: Hitler wasn’t really an enemy of the USA~

regardless, SIEG HIEL!


Your right hitler was the enemy of the entire planet. That man HAD to be stopped at all costs


i’m going to take a guess and say your american...

this being blustered by your ignorance to history... and blatant display of propaganda...


So do you think Hitler was going jus take over europe and jus stop right there? He would have gotten greedy and tried to take over the rest of the world’s countries. Men like him would have never stopped.


who said i said he’d stop?
i never said that...

but who says it’s wrong that he’d take it over? who are you to say it’s wrong, if he did. then i’d say he earned it. that’s the thing about war.. if you win, you deserve the victory... if you lose, you obviously didn’t deserve what you were trying to achieve.


So ur saying if hitler won that he deserved to take over everything?



Well, its a dog eat dog world. The weak die and the strong live. If Hitler wanted the world hard enough and won, then he obviously deserved it. However, from a morally fueled stand point, he does not. Someone so morally incorrect doesn’t deserve such power.


exactly.... as it stands

personal level: i’m glad he didn’t win, he doesn’t deserve such power as too me he wouldn’t be a good ruler of the world...

unbiased level: if you win the war, and EARN your rewards... who’s to say anything against you? you did what you had to... you beat them.. you win.. .and so you are the victor... as the say “whoever wins the war is in the right”


Ur right. Hitler is still worst than Osama in my book



I frankly stand between them. Both generally hated or still hate everyone outside their inner circle.


Lol true. And Osama plays a mean game of “hide and seek” lol

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donkoehler wrote:

J peth wrote:

donkoehler wrote: Hitler still caused way more deaths directly and indirectly than Bin Laden. In the end, I guess that answers the question who is more f-ed up.


no....

as bin laden MURDERED them....

but hitler was at war... so the deaths were unavoidable...


The Holocaust anyone? Yeah Hitler still beats Bin Laden in non-war death counts.



Added to that Osama was never really in war currently to begin with. He’s definitely not trying to eradicate everyone on the same scale as Hitler. Osama is just trying to incite fear, and as you can tell today... it worked. People would definitely notice it if they live in America.


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