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Archangel Tyrael

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Lich King Arthas

RULES: The fight takes place at the Worldstone Chamber after the events of Diablo II, namely on the bridge leading to it.

Both characters are at their strongest with no PIS/CIS, and Bloodlust is activated.

Any canonical reference of feats provided is evidence unless inconsistent with other equally canonical material. What is more canon is proof that will be used over anything inconsistent with any other evidence.

LIMITS: Lich King Arthas cannot summon Undead to aid him, nor his mount.

Archangel Tyrael cannot call upon reinforcements from the Heavens to help him during the fight.

No potions or consumable items are allowed for either character.

NOTES: I haven’t been on in forever, and I feel like starting with something basic here. Common Good Guy VS Common Bad Guy is what this seems like to me. Who wins and why?


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How many feats does Tyrael have?

Right now, there isn’t much known about his capabilities. We do know he destroyed the Worldstone and I believe he did stop time once, but thats about it really.


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Shadow Archon wrote: How many feats does Tyrael have?

Right now, there isn’t much known about his capabilities. We do know he destroyed the Worldstone and I believe he did stop time once, but thats about it really.



We know he did those; The Worldstone is the source of all the Soulstones' power, as well as a barrier between Hell and the Mortal Realm. Tyrael said a couple incantations, thrust his sword into the Worldstone, and it pretty much exploded. The “Time-Stop” part can’t be right as it’d be inconsistent with what would have happened. What I think happened was that he took Marius to a different domain of some sort for a short time. If it was a time-stop, then Tyrael could have outright destroyed Mephisto before Baal or Diablo got to him.

However, due to PIS, as well as CIS/Lack of Bloodlust(Tyrael could’ve easily killed Diablo in his humanoid form), Diablo and Baal got away, and Tyrael was forbidden to help as the rulers of Heaven said it was “The hour of Man’s Triumph."

Tyrael is also capable of making portals, as he’s shown to right before the cut-scene where he destroys the Worldstone. Since Tyrael is also not only a harbinger of Heaven, so to speak, he is still an Archangel, and thus considered an “immortal."


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The Prime Evils could have had a defense against it, or it was just a quick burst of knowledge in short amount of time. Like sending a person an entire paragraph in mili-seconds. Something like that.

Right now, Im going for Tyrael though.


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Bump;

The only defense the Prime Evils could have had was that Baal was capable of preventing spiritual beings entering within a specific radius, and TBH, that’s pretty much PIS so that the player would get the kill. (Technically yes and no, we’d still need some information on this.) The only time this was proven was near the end of the game.

There was no other chance as Baal was entrapped within Tal Rasha, and even then he wasn’t sanctioned from the area, but instead trapped. This could lead to the fact that Baal has the power to control spirits that aren’t in a host body.

But we’re getting off=topic in that regard, so to speak. I too believe Tyrael would win as his sword, Azurewrath, is capable of destroying portals, and has a sense of bane from Undead(, meaning that his sword repulses any evil within a short range). Considering that Arthas is now undead, the sword will have a drastic effect upon him, and if stabbed, Arthas could instantly be killed.


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Forgot that when Tyrael one-shotted the world stone, the mountain exploded, and Tyrael survived, so I say Tyrael is going to win.


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You are totally wrong!In the lore Arthas never died so he is not undead. He is just corrupted by Frostmourne and he also wears The Plate of the Damned which makes him nearly invulnerable. And after all He does greatly increased damage to Good Characters and he hits for Massive damage which can even wound the Black Knight(even tho he can’t be considered a good guy)And after all if the lich king is being dropped down to 10% health he casts Fury of the Frostmourne which instanly kill everything.And after all he is considered as a God and tyrael is an...archangel so the Lich King can easily dominate him

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Btw sorry for bad english :P

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Tyrael destroyed the worldstone and open the gate to hell.


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i believe Tyrael would win. Sure the Lich king is a god, but an Archangel is an Immortal. They can only be damned, corrupted, bound, trapped, or wounded. They cannot die. But the Lich king can trap, ensnare, whatever you guys want, because IF the lich king destroyed Tyraels body, he’d be rejoined in heaven.

I’m going with Tyrael. Its usually the strong quiet types that always win. Tyrael wasnt always outspoken, he spoke when needed, and thats it. But he also has many advantages, his wings can grab, his sword, as said, is incredibly strong, just imagine how strong his armor might be. Like i said, i would like to think Tyrael would win.

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SgtGrif wrote: i believe Tyrael would win. Sure the Lich king is a god, but an Archangel is an Immortal. They can only be damned, corrupted, bound, trapped, or wounded. They cannot die. But the Lich king can trap, ensnare, whatever you guys want, because IF the lich king destroyed Tyraels body, he’d be rejoined in heaven.

I’m going with Tyrael. Its usually the strong quiet types that always win. Tyrael wasnt always outspoken, he spoke when needed, and thats it. But he also has many advantages, his wings can grab, his sword, as said, is incredibly strong, just imagine how strong his armor might be. Like i said, i would like to think Tyrael would win.



Well since you dont know much about the Lich King HE is immortal his armor and sword are indestructible as its power was granted and created by nigh omnipotent being Kil’jaeden’s full powers lie not within the boundaries of physical and magical ability, but in the mind.

IF Tyreal took the Lich Kings sword it would corrupt and take him over as the sword it self contains the soul of orcish shaman Ner’zhul which was granted power from Kil’Jaeden. As Arthas Menethil’s soul was corrupted by this as well and he was a high ranking paladin of the light becoming the host to the Lich King.

DUE to PIS the Lich King was only beaten by The Ashbringer crafted by with the body of a Naaru which is an omnipotent being. BUT the Lich King himself is immortal as his host dies he gets another. If you dont know anything about the Naaru they are a dimension-traveling race of sentient energy beings, The (non-titan) gods of Azeroth.


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08-05-2010 03:53 PM
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This is a fight between Lich King Arthas so it isn’t the lich king’s soul but killing arthas which would render the LK useless without his undead army.

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Tyrael, read the novels for further explanation.


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Gary Oak wrote: Tyrael, read the novels for further explanation.


I have only read one so far. Is it Sin War series? I’m just curious of what he can do.

Also I thought Tyreal destroyed the WorldStone so Baal’s corruption wouldn’t fuck up the balance and that meteor in D3 made the gates of hell open?

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Shaman King Hao wrote: I have only read one so far. Is it Sin War series? I’m just curious of what he can do.


No, it’s from the Kingdom of Shadow. Tyrael is God’s right hand and could destroy the entire world (demons and humans/half-demons alike). God has entrusted him with the power and the only reason Tyrael stays his hand is because he found hope in humanity. Also in the birth times he cleansed a legion of demons by a single stroke of his sword.

Also I thought Tyreal destroyed the WorldStone so Baal’s corruption wouldn’t fuck up the balance and that meteor in D3 made the gates of hell open?


He destroyed the world stone and it would alter the world in untold ways, yes. So?


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09-12-2010 11:47 PM
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Tyrael. Don’t need to explain.

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ftw wrote: Tyrael. Don’t need to explain.




..., uhm... this is a VERSUS forum, you have to explain why someone wins for it to count. You can go ahead and say Tyrael, as who you believe would win, but saying “Don’t need to explain." is just as unimportant as just saying he wins.

Without reason or proof, you can’t truly determine who wins or loses. If you really believe he wins, and want to prove it, then yes, you DO need to explain.

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ftw wrote: Tyrael. Don’t need to explain.


agree tyrael wins, but only

if tyrael destroy the evil frostmourne sword of Lich King Arthas, otherwise that battle will be eternal

Edited 10-27-2010 07:43 PM by xdrum
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lich king.


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Ellipsis252 wrote:

Kinasin wrote: lich king.




..., uhm... this is a VERSUS forum, you have to explain why someone wins for it to count. You can go ahead and say Tyrael, as who you believe would win, but saying “Don’t need to explain." is just as unimportant as just saying he wins.

Without reason or proof, you can’t truly determine who wins or loses. If you really believe he wins, and want to prove it, then yes, you DO need to explain.



dude remember that

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