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Zemoco wrote:



2:44-3:00

one of the greatest fights of animated cartoons imo.

Its in my top 10.

Zemoco wrote: So, bloodbending is hax anyway, so it doesn’t mean she’s stronger.

I mean, show me Korra ever doing something like this, and then you can start comparing her to Aang.



3:00




17:55



Dang yo forgot all about that. Wait that volcano thing isn’t that similar to what Ruko did before he passed away?

40 acres wrote: What made the avatar power was the fact they had access to their past lives skills and power. Korra is weaker and less skilled than the rest because of that fact.

Aaang has access to wan plus every avatar afterwards you just stomped your own arguement.

Didn’t think of those. Interesting.

40 acres wrote: Except Aang native bending is air. Korras is water. The fact that Aang is as skilled as her in water bending yet has better airbending skills than zaheer say everything you need to know about the skill difference.

Tech. Aang’s bending even water is superior to Korra’s but w/e you already went over it yourself.

40 acres wrote: Bro he was talking in his past lives voice in the avatar state. That was a major theme in the series.



That was one of the best things about the AS. It was juts like how Goku’s voice changed in SSJ4 even better if I say so myself.

Baddass af.


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Please do not speak of Lord Gokuu in this thread, dear Tornado. It’s the equivalent of talking about Jesus whilst in Hell, you might just regret it.

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Well, ignoring all that ATLA vs LoK stuff, I’m just going to say that I like both series equally in terms of story and characters as well as themes.

Also, interesting thing--if I remember right, the creators said they had Kyoshi in mind when they were writing Korra at the start. Not sure how much of that actually stayed, but I thought that was worth noting.


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Doc. wrote: Please do not speak of Lord Gokuu in this thread, dear Tornado. It’s the equivalent of talking about Jesus whilst in Hell, you might just regret it.



what are you doing in this thread anyway?


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DurdenH wrote:

Doc. wrote: Please do not speak of Lord Gokuu in this thread, dear Tornado. It’s the equivalent of talking about Jesus whilst in Hell, you might just regret it.



what are you doing in this thread anyway?



I clicked on it to see if the series was good or not.

Judging by the posts here, people seem relatively educated. This won’t do, the fanbases I belong to have to be stupid.

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Doc. wrote:

DurdenH wrote:

Doc. wrote: Please do not speak of Lord Gokuu in this thread, dear Tornado. It’s the equivalent of talking about Jesus whilst in Hell, you might just regret it.



what are you doing in this thread anyway?



I clicked on it to see if the series was good or not.

Judging by the posts here, people seem relatively educated. This won’t do, the fanbases I belong to have to be stupid.


The people in this thread are hardly representative of the whole fandom. You haven’t even seen the shipping fandom for this franchise...I mean, shippers in general tend to be blight on fanbases, but the Avatar Shipping fandom is insane.


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40 acres wrote:

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Erised wrote: Anybody who claims that ATLA is stronger than LOK because the bending feats are bigger have no idea what they are talking about.

Bending combat has changed since ATLA. They use smaller more concentrated attacks along with speed. Pro Bending is a symbol of this cultural shift. That doesn’t mean they can’t use large feats if needed.

Lin and Bolin are perfect examples.

EVERY fight Lin has been in has featured her using small rocks. Yet we know for a FACT she can levitate a dozen large ass boulders with NO STRAIN. All those boulders combined would be the size of one the houses that Bumi himself was tossing at Omashu.

Bolin BISECTED a BUILDING. Yet in every fight he used small amounts of earth.

Both of these characters have gotten into drawn out earthbending fights. Which means they’re high end feats are not something exclusive to them.


That is nonsense Boomy would wreck Lin and Bolin in earthbending. Both with skill and Power. ATLA displayed skilled simultaneously performing bigger attacks. Toph could still wreck them outside of her prime.



Hold up, don’t be twisting what i’m saying.

This isn’t Bumi vs Lin or Toph vs Lin, stop that crap.

The simple fact is that because they don’t use large amounts of whatever they are bending it means they are weaker than ATLA characters. That’s not what’s going on. The fighting style has changed. They don’t NEED to use large attacks because they use more precise and concentrated ones that are less taxing and time consuming.

The fact that they COULD do large ass feats but don’t do it throws the who has bigger feats argument thing into question.


You are comparing the series. The fighting turned towards a weaker style. Just like modern martial arts because of peace. There is more to suggest war time benders were stronger then legend of korra. Kuvira was supposed to stomped everyone knew this fact. The only thing that stopped it was ptsd. The red lotus is the only ones you can make such a claims.



Except it’s not a weaker battle style. The changes has nothing to do with people being weaker. It’s a cultural shift. The same size oriented moves of ATLA are replica-table just unecessary. It’s like shaving of wasted movements.

Explain to me how an era where lightning bending, metalbending are now common is weaker?


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At the end of the day LOK is still the stronger series. With Unavaatu, Astral Korra, Amon, Tarrlok, Yakone, Red Lotus they are clearly superior.


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Doc. wrote: Please do not speak of Lord Gokuu in this thread, dear Tornado. It’s the equivalent of talking about Jesus whilst in Hell, you might just regret it.



Truuue.

Wouldn’t want to have my soul taken way from me.

I must go ask Saint Aang for forgiveness; for my misdeeds.

Doc. wrote: I clicked on it to see if the series was good or not.

Judging by the posts here, people seem relatively educated. This won’t do, the fanbases I belong to have to be stupid.



What are you talking about fren? The character in your set comes from a series that has the most intelligent fanbase in the whole world. Even more than the likes of Stark Trek & Milan Kundra’s works.

Basically think of ATLA as the ss arc/beginning of the current arc & LoK the deicide/fullbring arcs.

Zevroid wrote: Also, interesting thing--if I remember right, the creators said they had Kyoshi in mind when they were writing Korra at the start. Not sure how much of that actually stayed, but I thought that was worth noting.



That is interesting but I don’t think it stayed much. Since Kyoshi was patient & Korra was almost never patient.

Erised wrote: At the end of the day LOK is still the stronger series. With Unavaatu, Astral Korra, Amon, Tarrlok, Yakone, Red Lotus they are clearly superior.

Well we will just have to agree to disagree. No point in beating off.


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Janeiro wrote: Basically think of ATLA as the ss arc/beginning of the current arc & LoK the deicide/fullbring arcs.



Above average and shit?

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Doc. wrote:

Janeiro wrote: Basically think of ATLA as the ss arc/beginning of the current arc & LoK the deicide/fullbring arcs.



Above average and shit?

No. I mean if you had to do a comparison with something mainstream.

Quality wise LoK is equal to the best parts of hst. While ATLA is on a whole other level.

Like how ss arc is far better than the fullbring arc.


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Janeiro wrote:

Doc. wrote:

Janeiro wrote: Basically think of ATLA as the ss arc/beginning of the current arc & LoK the deicide/fullbring arcs.



Above average and shit?

No. I mean if you had to do a comparison with something mainstream.

Quality wise LoK is equal to the best parts of hst. While ATLA is on a whole other level.

Like how ss arc is far better than the fullbring arc.



Ah

But the HST is shit

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Amon > rest of the LoK and ATLA villains though.


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Comparing LoK to the current Shonen manga is...Well, that’s just a bad comparison. Even if it’s the best parts.


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Doc. wrote:

Janeiro wrote:

Doc. wrote:

Janeiro wrote: Basically think of ATLA as the ss arc/beginning of the current arc & LoK the deicide/fullbring arcs.



Above average and shit?

No. I mean if you had to do a comparison with something mainstream.

Quality wise LoK is equal to the best parts of hst. While ATLA is on a whole other level.

Like how ss arc is far better than the fullbring arc.



Ah

But the HST is shit



Compared to anything that is good yeah I agree.

Zevroid wrote: Comparing LoK to the current Shonen manga is...Well, that’s just a bad comparison. Even if it’s the best parts.

Well you’re right. I just mean that on average LoK is equal to the best parts of hst which are above average. LoK is an above average series. While hst tends to scrap as mediocre & sub-par mostly.


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Janeiro wrote:

Rich-616 wrote:

Janeiro wrote:

Rich-616 wrote: She’s definitely the stronger Avatar btw, Erised.





1) Skilled in three elements as a toddler,
2) overpowered bloodbending without AS,
3) energy bent an explosion that was about to destroy a city,
4) and had the strongest connection with Raava. The source of the Avatar’s power.

5) How is she not the strongest? Enlighten me, please.



1) Not skilled she had earlier access than most other avatars. And sadly even by the time she was 20-21 she wasn’t as skilled in all 4 of them together as Aang was against Ozai. Its pretty much Vegeta & Goku all over again. Aang may have been a late bloomer (not really but between the 2 of them he is) but at the rate he learns & adapts is far greater.
2) When was this? Are you referring her airbending shtick against Amon?
3) That isn’t really impressive. Aging Ruko did something more impressive. That earth nation avatar her name slips me atm moved entire islands and more. Aang is above Ruko in terms of power perhaps even that Earth one but the jury is out on that one. He is the most spiritually connected from the last 4 though.
4) That was a part-time thing. It only happened b/c of what occurs every 100K years or w.e. It wasn’t due to her own capabilities. And considering her lack of spiritual connection compared to all the ones shown before Ruko or anyone else could have done that as well. Let alone Aang who from the last 4 has the best spiritual connection.
5) This isn’t really hard to tell. Even in LoK they keep referring to Aang as the big bad. Toph even said it out right. That’s how the creators made her. Not saying she is the WOAT or anything. but from the 2 we have seen in full she is definitely 2nd place. As for Ruko & the others it more guess work than anything. But I’m sure Korra isn’t the worst one. It from the 2 she is significantly shown to be below. And lastly Aang against Ozai x 100 (his regular self). Redirecting that kind of powerful lighting etc. Moving entire pillars of rock casually something that the giant metal robot of the s.4 villain wouldn’t be able to Considering it had problems dealing with large city buildings.

Well that’s my take on it. Don’t know why you’re taking it the wrong way man.



From what we were shown, she was skilled in them. You think having access to there elements as a toddler doesn’t speak of her natural talent?

You and a million others say this, but there’s pretty much no proof. Season 1 Korra was casually beating on White Lotus guards in 3-on-1’s.

How is it a “shtick”? She overpowered and blasted him, while Aang could only twitch until going into the AS.

It wasn’t a one-time thing at all, she simply accessed more of Raava’s power than anyone before her.

Of course they respect Aang, he saved the world. You think Korra won’t be respected in the same manner when she’s saved it four times. Power-wise, all of the Avatar’s should be like, around the same. Aang wasn’t particularly special in this regard, Korra and Wan were. And I’m pretty sure an attack that would vaporize a city (and can tear through mountains easily” beats out pushing a small island.

I’m just tired of the Korra downplay and Aang wank is all, that’s it. I think a lot of it had to do with people just liking Aang more because he came first.

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Erised wrote:

40 acres wrote:

Erised wrote:

40 acres wrote:

Erised wrote: Anybody who claims that ATLA is stronger than LOK because the bending feats are bigger have no idea what they are talking about.

Bending combat has changed since ATLA. They use smaller more concentrated attacks along with speed. Pro Bending is a symbol of this cultural shift. That doesn’t mean they can’t use large feats if needed.

Lin and Bolin are perfect examples.

EVERY fight Lin has been in has featured her using small rocks. Yet we know for a FACT she can levitate a dozen large ass boulders with NO STRAIN. All those boulders combined would be the size of one the houses that Bumi himself was tossing at Omashu.

Bolin BISECTED a BUILDING. Yet in every fight he used small amounts of earth.

Both of these characters have gotten into drawn out earthbending fights. Which means they’re high end feats are not something exclusive to them.


That is nonsense Boomy would wreck Lin and Bolin in earthbending. Both with skill and Power. ATLA displayed skilled simultaneously performing bigger attacks. Toph could still wreck them outside of her prime.



Hold up, don’t be twisting what i’m saying.

This isn’t Bumi vs Lin or Toph vs Lin, stop that crap.

The simple fact is that because they don’t use large amounts of whatever they are bending it means they are weaker than ATLA characters. That’s not what’s going on. The fighting style has changed. They don’t NEED to use large attacks because they use more precise and concentrated ones that are less taxing and time consuming.

The fact that they COULD do large ass feats but don’t do it throws the who has bigger feats argument thing into question.


You are comparing the series. The fighting turned towards a weaker style. Just like modern martial arts because of peace. There is more to suggest war time benders were stronger then legend of korra. Kuvira was supposed to stomped everyone knew this fact. The only thing that stopped it was ptsd. The red lotus is the only ones you can make such a claims.



Except it’s not a weaker battle style. The changes has nothing to do with people being weaker. It’s a cultural shift. The same size oriented moves of ATLA are replica-table just unecessary. It’s like shaving of wasted movements.

Explain to me how an era where lightning bending, metalbending are now common is weaker?


All of this if fine in and all but none of that changes the fact the previous cast taught all of that shit. Like I said multiple times Toph>>>evrything you have said.

Erised wrote: At the end of the day LOK is still the stronger series. With Unavaatu, Astral Korra, Amon, Tarrlok, Yakone, Red Lotus they are clearly superior.

Aang click prime still wrecks them. You do realize they were old and retired in LOK. Aang was powerful enough to project himself while he was dead and restored Korras abilities. He just never fought any of them. None of which was impressive compared to what him and Toph displayed. Toph even implied Katara would have been able to interfere in Korra battles if she chose. But she didn’t they sidelined themselves on purpose. hell Aang could have come out Korra and rape stomped everyone she faced prior to the reincarnations cycle being broken.


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the good ol' ATLA wank


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I don’t feel as if aang vs korra DONT belong in this thread... So i made one for you guys to take their, so it doesn’t flood up here as obivously this will be going on for a while
http://lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-forum/aang-vs-korra-373080/


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Rich-616 wrote:

Janeiro wrote:

Rich-616 wrote:

Janeiro wrote:

Rich-616 wrote: She’s definitely the stronger Avatar btw, Erised.





1) Skilled in three elements as a toddler,
2) overpowered bloodbending without AS,
3) energy bent an explosion that was about to destroy a city,
4) and had the strongest connection with Raava. The source of the Avatar’s power.

5) How is she not the strongest? Enlighten me, please.



1) Not skilled she had earlier access than most other avatars. And sadly even by the time she was 20-21 she wasn’t as skilled in all 4 of them together as Aang was against Ozai. Its pretty much Vegeta & Goku all over again. Aang may have been a late bloomer (not really but between the 2 of them he is) but at the rate he learns & adapts is far greater.
2) When was this? Are you referring her airbending shtick against Amon?
3) That isn’t really impressive. Aging Ruko did something more impressive. That earth nation avatar her name slips me atm moved entire islands and more. Aang is above Ruko in terms of power perhaps even that Earth one but the jury is out on that one. He is the most spiritually connected from the last 4 though.
4) That was a part-time thing. It only happened b/c of what occurs every 100K years or w.e. It wasn’t due to her own capabilities. And considering her lack of spiritual connection compared to all the ones shown before Ruko or anyone else could have done that as well. Let alone Aang who from the last 4 has the best spiritual connection.
5) This isn’t really hard to tell. Even in LoK they keep referring to Aang as the big bad. Toph even said it out right. That’s how the creators made her. Not saying she is the WOAT or anything. but from the 2 we have seen in full she is definitely 2nd place. As for Ruko & the others it more guess work than anything. But I’m sure Korra isn’t the worst one. It from the 2 she is significantly shown to be below. And lastly Aang against Ozai x 100 (his regular self). Redirecting that kind of powerful lighting etc. Moving entire pillars of rock casually something that the giant metal robot of the s.4 villain wouldn’t be able to Considering it had problems dealing with large city buildings.

Well that’s my take on it. Don’t know why you’re taking it the wrong way man.



From what we were shown, she was skilled in them. You think having access to there elements as a toddler doesn’t speak of her natural talent?

You and a million others say this, but there’s pretty much no proof. Season 1 Korra was casually beating on White Lotus guards in 3-on-1’s.

How is it a “shtick”? She overpowered and blasted him, while Aang could only twitch until going into the AS.

It wasn’t a one-time thing at all, she simply accessed more of Raava’s power than anyone before her.

Of course they respect Aang, he saved the world. You think Korra won’t be respected in the same manner when she’s saved it four times. Power-wise, all of the Avatar’s should be like, around the same. Aang wasn’t particularly special in this regard, Korra and Wan were. And I’m pretty sure an attack that would vaporize a city (and can tear through mountains easily” beats out pushing a small island.

I’m just tired of the Korra downplay and Aang wank is all, that’s it. I think a lot of it had to do with people just liking Aang more because he came first.

Man you clearly don’t remember all of the series like you think you do. Aang accessed his spirit way before Korra did. What she did he did first. He never needed to fight in that mode. What you think is special about Korra is not lol. Look atthe vid 9:35 on up. This is when he was 12. His mastery of his abilities is clearly on another level since back then.



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