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who wins? manga only


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07-15-2007 10:27 PM
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From what little I 've heard of DS, Goku gets raped.

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And you are right.


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where are goku fanboys?


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07-16-2007 01:19 PM
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For what i understand for this schneider he is magical and know spell to destroy, and he come from a manga that use angels and demons. barriers to protect himself and he is an antihero.

is his body resisting and durable? to lets say he is caught by surprise by superman or goku punchs? or he depends of his shields? does he knows to fight without magic?

Goku will lose, with the little i know about schneider.

but he has a slim chance with the Genkidama, that Attack evil souls, if this Schneider is disintegrate in body and soul he will be defeated right?

if not Goku will lose.

if you are thinking in saying take time to charge genkidama, Goku can port to avoid being attack.

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Kakarrot bussy wrote:
For what i understand for this schneider he is magical and know spell to destroy, and he come from a manga that use angels and demons. barriers to protect himself and he is an antihero.


Yep.

Kakarrot bussy wrote:
is his body resisting and durable? to lets say he is caught by surprise by superman or goku punchs? or he depends of his shields? does he knows to fight without magic?


He trained Ninja Master Gaala and some other fighters in Bastard to be some of the best fighters in the universe,his shields protect him from all damage but he himself is durable.

Kakarrot bussy wrote:
but he has a slim chance with the Genkidama, that Attack evil souls, if this Schneider is disintegrate in body and soul he will be defeated right?


Its hard to explain its like Astral,physical,and spiritual form have to be destroyed all at once but I doubt spirit bomb would work.

Kakarrot bussy wrote:
if you are thinking in saying take time to charge genkidama, Goku can port to avoid being attack.


Where though?It probably wouldn’t take time for DS to find him.


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07-16-2007 05:26 PM
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Well, i am not stuburn, or at least i think i am not, if Hes need to be destroy in 3 diferent planes, this Schneider will prevail.

But the Genkidama will disintegrate his body and his evil soul.

Goku does not need to port far, just change position in the same area.

I find a diferent fight Vegerrot vs Schneider more equal, Vegerrot could disintegrate Gohan Buu just with his hand, same like the Z in your Sig, he told that to Gohanbuu.(manga)and he was just playing.

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Goku wins this after an epic battle.Writer of dark shnieder has clear intention that he is at sound speed against Uriel and AT has clear intention that goku after receiving training from Mr.popo is faster than lightening which can reach half the speed of light and he was kid.Yes darsh is light speed but only in space in where you supply continous energy your velocity will continue to increase.Face the facts FUCKERS.GOku is lot faster than Darsh.Darsh can be more stronger but not faster.Animation has been approved by AT means it is “canon” or genunine as Creator accepting the animation and in the manga he they only said kid buu is destroying the planets for years and in the animations they show how he is destoying the planets and yes by destroying galaxies.Goku finds oppturinity and uses universal spirit bomb.Goku will disappear infront of him and gave him plenty of punches and yeah stupid D.S fans Goku combat speed is insanely fast because he is martial artist not a magician

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09-30-2009 04:07 PM
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http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0003qt3.jpg

Let everyone know the intentions of Bastard!!! author
USSJ Trunks Looses to cell despite the fact he is more powerful because he is slow.

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Dispel Bound

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7870/0001englf2.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3911/0002hz9.jpg


http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4765/0003qt3.jpg


^ on the third scan a translation from the Japanese original has shown that the speed DS moves at isnít exactly specified. It is actually only referred to as very high speed but taking into account that even a Seraphim has troubles following the fight, they must move incredibly fast.


Also it is important to note than in earlier volumes (volume 16) It was confirmed that Seraphines are faster than Light. And since Raphael is an arcangel and has trouble following the battle because they move so fast, you could say they are faster than light.


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10-13-2009 07:13 PM
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Goku effortlessly defeats Dark Schneider and his nuke level shields.

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Why am I getting a bad feeling about this thread?


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Moses Morrison wrote: Goku effortlessly defeats Dark Schneider and his nuke level shields.




moses fail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpkzptvDpDY


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Moses Morrison wrote: Goku effortlessly defeats Dark Schneider and his nuke level shields.



Pal I know Goku could defeat a Nuke level shield, but also I think we are underestimating the power level of a nuclear bomb

Nuclear Boms have evolved a lot since the second world war




AND THIS WAS 7 YEARS AGO!!!!! IMAGINE NOW HOW POWERFUL THE NUCLEAR BOMBS HAVE BECOME :S

http://media.photobucket.com/image/hydrogen%20bomb/pedophilepoopile/Hydrogen_Bomb_Toroidal_Cloud.jpg

It would not be that easy for Goku.

Dark Schneider stopped easily with one finger a hit that was so strong as nuclear bomb. And he was not using Judas Pain when he stopped the nuclear powerbomb level hit.

The judas Pain increases by millions the powers of the user...

So imagine if he with one finger stopped the hit, with Judas Pain or Better known as Majin Dark Schneider his powers could stop easily more than 1 million nuclear bombs.

DS has more than 100 shields that regenerate super fast.

Dispellbound is conformed of hundreds of shields that can protect the user from virtually anything. Each shield can resist a nuke power level attack.

If you saw the pictures,

Could you imagine the size of energy of more than 100 nuclear bombs exploding at the same time?

Since in Dragonball
A ki blast is >>>>>> much stronger than a fist or physical strength
Goku can not destroy the shields using his bare hands.
Goku can destroy them with Ki, but not with a trashy amount of ki. Surely he would need a decent amount of Ki to destroy all the shields at the same time.

But the other problem is that the shields regenerate instantly in less than one second.

For example Buu’s body was so easy to damage that even bullets could cut his “skin” and get inside of his body, but it was not a problem for buu because he had super fast regeneration.

So even if you had the power to overcome a bullet power level skinn to cut him or whatever it was not going to be important because he had super fast regeneration, that even planet buster attacks were not enought to finish him.

The shields of Dark Schneider are nuke level but they also have regeneration, actually faster than buu’s regeneration. But even if you destroy the shields DS’s body is millions of millions of time stronger than a a nuclear bomb and he has hyperfast regeneration too. Even if you destroy his physical body you need to desroy soul and spirit too.

But the powers of Dark Schneider are not limited to the Majin form.

DS also has the DRAGON KNIGHT LUCIFER FORM.

If Majin Dark Schneider is millions of times stronger than the “base form”

Lucifer is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Majin form.


Lucifer form increases drastically all DS powers , magic and skills.


He was even capable of defeating Uriel fallen Augoeides who was multigalaxy buster level.

Uriel attacked DS with thousans (if not millions) of dark holes, and DS still won the battle.

After he defeated Uriel, he got out of the Lucifer Body ALIVE (this was an impressive feat because it is suppossed that if you use the Dragon Knight Lucifer body you are doomed and you surely die no matter what).

But DS not only survived he appeared with a new form.
ďAdam of Darkness DSĒ
DSí latest transformation is yet unknown in terms of power. After his clash with Fallen Urielís Augoeides ended and both should have been destroyed, DS emerges from the ruins of the Dragon Knight Lucifer, alive, nude and with the Stigmata of Jesus, one black angel wing and a devil wing. It is speculated that this is DS current, most powerful form, though it is unproven as of yet.

In this form he recreated an angel( a supreme being) and it is considered to be the CLOSEST THING TO GOD, according to RAFAEL an arcangel....

Judas Pain by itself has the power to destroy the galaxy. Depending on who is the user the powers of judas pain it is possible to go beyond the galaxy buster power level.

Until now it is just an speculation to say that Black Adan form is the strongest form of DS, but since the manga has not ended and there are many fights missing, you could say that there is a 99% chance that the Black Adan form is stronger and that DS has lot of room to become even mooooore powerful


So if

Black Adan form>>>Lucifer form>>>>>Majin Form>>>>>>>>>>Base


to be honest it is hard for me to see how Goku defeat an IMMORTAL guy like DS.


LETS IMAGINE FOR ONE SECOND THAT GOKU CAN DESTROY WITH HIS BEAMS THE BODY OF DARSH.

DARSH IS IMMORTAL!! :S AND IN HIS LUCIFER FORM HE CAN USE SOMETHING SIMMILAR AS GOKU’S IT.

Goku would easily run out of ki and DS is going to keep coming back again and again and again forever.

After Goku has no more energy it is not hard to tell that DS could kill him.


But the problem is that Darsh is faster than light, immortal, super fast regeneration, shields that protect from anything, has the power to destroy galaxies and he knows many powerful spells.

SSJ4 Goku had trouble fighting against attacks that were not so hot as Sun...

Well the Sun’s surface temperature is around 5000 K

DS in his weak form has a spell attack that produces a temperature of 20.000 degrees Celsius!!!! bugeye

The majin form increases by millions all powers and skills of DS

Majin DS can produce attack with a temperature
around the
20,000,000,000 degrees Celsius X_X

And his attacks are faster than light!


But Lucifer Form is even stronger than the majin form
X_X !!! X_X

I have doubts of how can even Goku ssj4 handle an attack of someone who is faster than light and can use an attack that is

around 20,000,000,000 degrees Celsius!!!

And he had stronger attacks than exodus!! :S


Sorry but in my humble opinion I do not think Goku could defeat Darsh, the immortal stuff of Darsh is already too much...


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Mike8UN wrote:

Moses Morrison wrote: Goku effortlessly defeats Dark Schneider and his nuke level shields.



Pal I know Goku could defeat a Nuke level shield, but also I think we are underestimating the power level of a nuclear bomb

Nuclear Boms have evolved a lot since the second world war




AND THIS WAS 7 YEARS AGO!!!!! IMAGINE NOW HOW POWERFUL THE NUCLEAR BOMBS HAVE BECOME :S

http://media.photobucket.com/image/hydrogen%20bomb/pedophilepoopile/Hydrogen_Bomb_Toroidal_Cloud.jpg

It would not be that easy for Goku.

Dark Schneider stopped easily with one finger a hit that was so strong as nuclear bomb. And he was not using Judas Pain when he stopped the nuclear powerbomb level hit.

The judas Pain increases by millions the powers of the user...

So imagine if he with one finger stopped the hit, with Judas Pain or Better known as Majin Dark Schneider his powers could stop easily more than 1 million nuclear bombs.

DS has more than 100 shields that regenerate super fast.

Dispellbound is conformed of hundreds of shields that can protect the user from virtually anything. Each shield can resist a nuke power level attack.

If you saw the pictures,

Could you imagine the size of energy of more than 100 nuclear bombs exploding at the same time?

Since in Dragonball
A ki blast is >>>>>> much stronger than a fist or physical strength
Goku can not destroy the shields using his bare hands.
Goku can destroy them with Ki, but not with a trashy amount of ki. Surely he would need a decent amount of Ki to destroy all the shields at the same time.

But the other problem is that the shields regenerate instantly in less than one second.

For example Buu’s body was so easy to damage that even bullets could cut his “skin” and get inside of his body, but it was not a problem for buu because he had super fast regeneration.

So even if you had the power to overcome a bullet power level skinn to cut him or whatever it was not going to be important because he had super fast regeneration, that even planet buster attacks were not enought to finish him.

The shields of Dark Schneider are nuke level but they also have regeneration, actually faster than buu’s regeneration. But even if you destroy the shields DS’s body is millions of millions of time stronger than a a nuclear bomb and he has hyperfast regeneration too. Even if you destroy his physical body you need to desroy soul and spirit too.

But the powers of Dark Schneider are not limited to the Majin form.

DS also has the DRAGON KNIGHT LUCIFER FORM.

If Majin Dark Schneider is millions of times stronger than the “base form”

Lucifer is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Majin form.


Lucifer form increases drastically all DS powers , magic and skills.


He was even capable of defeating Uriel fallen Augoeides who was multigalaxy buster level.

Uriel attacked DS with thousans (if not millions) of dark holes, and DS still won the battle.

After he defeated Uriel, he got out of the Lucifer Body ALIVE (this was an impressive feat because it is suppossed that if you use the Dragon Knight Lucifer body you are doomed and you surely die no matter what).

But DS not only survived he appeared with a new form.
ďAdam of Darkness DSĒ
DSí latest transformation is yet unknown in terms of power. After his clash with Fallen Urielís Augoeides ended and both should have been destroyed, DS emerges from the ruins of the Dragon Knight Lucifer, alive, nude and with the Stigmata of Jesus, one black angel wing and a devil wing. It is speculated that this is DS current, most powerful form, though it is unproven as of yet.

In this form he recreated an angel( a supreme being) and it is considered to be the CLOSEST THING TO GOD, according to RAFAEL an arcangel....

Judas Pain by itself has the power to destroy the galaxy. Depending on who is the user the powers of judas pain it is possible to go beyond the galaxy buster power level.

Until now it is just an speculation to say that Black Adan form is the strongest form of DS, but since the manga has not ended and there are many fights missing, you could say that there is a 99% chance that the Black Adan form is stronger and that DS has lot of room to become even mooooore powerful


So if

Black Adan form>>>Lucifer form>>>>>Majin Form>>>>>>>>>>Base


to be honest it is hard for me to see how Goku defeat an IMMORTAL guy like DS.


LETS IMAGINE FOR ONE SECOND THAT GOKU CAN DESTROY WITH HIS BEAMS THE BODY OF DARSH.

DARSH IS IMMORTAL!! :S AND IN HIS LUCIFER FORM HE CAN USE SOMETHING SIMMILAR AS GOKU’S IT.

Goku would easily run out of ki and DS is going to keep coming back again and again and again forever.

After Goku has no more energy it is not hard to tell that DS could kill him.


But the problem is that Darsh is faster than light, immortal, super fast regeneration, shields that protect from anything, has the power to destroy galaxies and he knows many powerful spells.

SSJ4 Goku had trouble fighting against attacks that were not so hot as Sun...

Well the Sun’s surface temperature is around 5000 K

DS in his weak form has a spell attack that produces a temperature of 20.000 degrees Celsius!!!! bugeye

The majin form increases by millions all powers and skills of DS

Majin DS can produce attack with a temperature
around the
20,000,000,000 degrees Celsius X_X

And his attacks are faster than light!


But Lucifer Form is even stronger than the majin form
X_X !!! X_X

I have doubts of how can even Goku ssj4 handle an attack of someone who is faster than light and can use an attack that is

around 20,000,000,000 degrees Celsius!!!

And he had stronger attacks than exodus!! :S


Sorry but in my humble opinion I do not think Goku could defeat Darsh, the immortal stuff of Darsh is already too much...




i know this has nothing to do with this failed thread.

Superman taking a blast equal to a million nuclear blasts.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/850/0822346hj.jpg

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3932/08222005121910pm8yp.jpg

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6301/089054127na.jpg

here you go Mike8UN check that out. i know goku can’t take all that heat from that blast


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heavenly king wrote:

i know this has nothing to do with this failed thread.

Superman taking a blast equal to a million nuclear blasts.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/850/0822346hj.jpg

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3932/08222005121910pm8yp.jpg

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6301/089054127na.jpg

here you go Mike8UN check that out. i know goku can’t take all that heat from that blast




wooow cool :O
that is epic.


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ive found out the reason goku wins so much anime vs anime threads....dbz is probably the largest fan base animes....its like marvel and dc they have a big fan base...its like superman stands for the US and Goku stands for Asia...jus my opinion

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I have been reading more about nuclear bombs and it seems its looooot more energy than what I told you. A 1/million fraction of second a nuclear bomb reaches the ten thousand ºcelsius, but after some seconds the temperature can be a true hell between 200.000.000 "°C and 300.000.000 "°C.

http://www.economy-point.org/nuclear-weapon/index.html

Lets say at least 200.000.000 "°C
Imagine that power but x1 million times.... mmmm

man that is an insane amount of heat, mass and energy....

SSJ4 had trouble against Nova shenron who had attacks that had a temperature of 5000 ºC (something like that)
I have the dvd’s and they mention the temeperature.

http://www.freewebs.com/gotenkssite/eshenrons.html
“he’s the Dragon of the 4 Star Dragon Ball, owned by Old Son Gohan, Goku’s grandpa. He can increase his body temperature to 6000 degrees, just like the Sun. His mortal attack is the Burst Attack, a very powerfull fireball... he hurls after having made it with the energy from his own body. He’s a warrior who likes fairly fighting, instead of his brother Ice Shenron. During the match with Goku, a strange loyalty relationship has born between them. Sushinlon was born when the Dragon Balls made Piccolo Daimao return young."


with 1 million nuclear bombs sorry pals but he does not even work as a hot piece of meat... he is less than ashes.

so we close the topic >_>??


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Deadshot wrote: ive found out the reason goku wins so much anime vs anime threads....dbz is probably the largest fan base animes....its like marvel and dc they have a big fan base...its like superman stands for the US and Goku stands for Asia...jus my opinion




dbz does have a large fan base. to bad dbz fans make him something that he’s not


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Mike8UN wrote: I have been reading more about nuclear bombs and it seems its looooot more energy than what I told you. A 1/million fraction of second a nuclear bomb reaches the ten thousand ºcelsius, but after some seconds the temperature can be a true hell between 200.000.000 "°C and 300.000.000 "°C.

http://www.economy-point.org/nuclear-weapon/index.html

Lets say at least 200.000.000 "°C
Imagine that power but x1 million times.... mmmm

man that is an insane amount of heat, mass and energy....

SSJ4 had trouble against Nova shenron who had attacks that had a temperature of 5000 ºC (something like that)
I have the dvd’s and they mention the temeperature.

http://www.freewebs.com/gotenkssite/eshenrons.html
“he’s the Dragon of the 4 Star Dragon Ball, owned by Old Son Gohan, Goku’s grandpa. He can increase his body temperature to 6000 degrees, just like the Sun. His mortal attack is the Burst Attack, a very powerfull fireball... he hurls after having made it with the energy from his own body. He’s a warrior who likes fairly fighting, instead of his brother Ice Shenron. During the match with Goku, a strange loyalty relationship has born between them. Sushinlon was born when the Dragon Balls made Piccolo Daimao return young."


with 1 million nuclear bombs sorry pals but he does not even work as a hot piece of meat... he is less than ashes.

so we close the topic >_>??




goku’s not durable to with stand such power and heat


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