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Zeus was NOT the most powerful being in Greek Mythology

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[Reply] #81
12-20-2011 11:45 PM
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typhos is the most powerful thing in greek mythology. Hera asked the titans to make a being more powerful than zeus THAT IS THE ANSWER ITS FKN TYPHOS

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i know the ACTUAL ANSWER wrote: typhos is the most powerful thing in greek mythology. Hera asked the titans to make a being more powerful than zeus THAT IS THE ANSWER ITS FKN TYPHOS



And there were a lot of beigns more powerful than Zeus, so no this doesnt prove anything.

In a myth Chaos is born from Mist.

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find out the only being look like a serpent are Chaos,Chronos and Ananke

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the sisters of fate controlled all existence and time they were the strongest


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im a box wrote: the sisters of fate controlled all existence and time they were the strongest



The sister was under Ananke
the time was control by Chronos

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The strongest were Ananke and Chronos, none of them could function without the other. They had a merged form around the primal egg so you could consider that form the strongest of them all.

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Primal egg>Anake>Chronos>Chaos>Nyx>Erebus

Is this good so far?

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Konohades wrote: in fact there is NO omnipotent deity in Greek Pantheon.



WRONG.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus

“In the Theogony, Hesiod introduces Prometheus as a lowly challenger to Zeus’s omniscience and omnipotence."

Hesiod is one of the main guys behind Greek mythology.

Zeus is omnipotent by the time he is king of the gods so that makes him the strongest now. If he wasn’t he won’t be ruling the universe.

So if the only way Zeus can be troubled is by other omnipotent and omniscience beings and considering the fact that he has been troubled by others before it would mean there are other omnipotent beings in Greek mythology as well.

So yes there are omnipotent beings in Greek mythology.

Also, Zeus was quoted to be omnipotent in Percy Jackson and him and Hades controlled life in Clash of the Titans. I know they are just movies but still that tells you something.

Edited 04-05-2012 11:14 PM by Kingsmead
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Uranus wasn’t that powerful but cronus was the strongest out of his siblings, the cyclopes and others (I 4got their names but they had 100 arms and legs) it still took cronus to release his siblings from tartarus to defeat uranus and when he was slain cronus being the ass hole that he is put them right back, by doing so cronus was destin to fall to his sons and brothers. I just wish “wrath of the titans” talked more about the history of zues, cronus, and uranus.

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whats the god of war name?


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play ace wrote: whats the god of war name?



Ares.


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yea ares i think he’ll be able to put up a fight with Zeus but not so sure about beating Zeus


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J peth wrote: Kronos was stronger than him as well, hell most Titans could beat the shit out of Immortals like Zues.



Greek mythology is weird, one moment the Gods are weaker than their fathers, the next they are stronger. Sperms are somehow merging together to create Theseus.

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well its there religion so we cant offend


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the reaper wrote: well its there religion so we cant offend



no one should say that chaos is stronger than zeus because at the end of the titanomachy it is stated exactly as this: then zeus no longer held his might at bay, and showed forth all his strength and then HEAT SEIZED CHAOS. so that puts zeus stronger than chaos also there was phanes who is considered the god of procreation zeus swallowed him alive, and if you go to details of typhon vs zeus, zeus was fighting typhon and gaia at the same time and defeated them so yeah zeus is the most powerful being in greek mythology

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Uranus/Gaia assholes


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Wow, just wow. If this is Orphic myths, then Zeus stomps all the greek mythology, which he actually did.
Hesoid’s Zeus that we all read is literally nothing compared to his Orphic version.
In Orphic myth, Phanes is the God, who had no beginning and was omnipotent omniscient omnipresent. Phanes was genderless, formless, transcendent, god of all gods. No god was able to approach him.
Phanes had unity with the whole universe, meaning he was all things, and all things were Phanes. Nyx gave birth to many uberpowerful beings like Moros, Hypnos (who were stated to be all omnipotent). And they were nothing in comparison to Phanes.
Zeus literally defeated all the gods. By that I mean all. Phanes, Ananke, Chronus, Nyx, Moros, Hypnos, Gaia, Ouranos, Chaos, alllllllllllllll of them.

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mythology wrote: Wow, just wow. If this is Orphic myths, then Zeus stomps all the greek mythology, which he actually did.
Hesoid’s Zeus that we all read is literally nothing compared to his Orphic version.
In Orphic myth, Phanes is the God, who had no beginning and was omnipotent omniscient omnipresent. Phanes was genderless, formless, transcendent, god of all gods. No god was able to approach him.
Phanes had unity with the whole universe, meaning he was all things, and all things were Phanes. Nyx gave birth to many uberpowerful beings like Moros, Hypnos (who were stated to be all omnipotent). And they were nothing in comparison to Phanes.
Zeus literally defeated all the gods. By that I mean all. Phanes, Ananke, Chronus, Nyx, Moros, Hypnos, Gaia, Ouranos, Chaos, alllllllllllllll of them.



Source?


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DevilMayhem666 wrote:

mythology wrote: Wow, just wow. If this is Orphic myths, then Zeus stomps all the greek mythology, which he actually did.
Hesoid’s Zeus that we all read is literally nothing compared to his Orphic version.
In Orphic myth, Phanes is the God, who had no beginning and was omnipotent omniscient omnipresent. Phanes was genderless, formless, transcendent, god of all gods. No god was able to approach him.
Phanes had unity with the whole universe, meaning he was all things, and all things were Phanes. Nyx gave birth to many uberpowerful beings like Moros, Hypnos (who were stated to be all omnipotent). And they were nothing in comparison to Phanes.
Zeus literally defeated all the gods. By that I mean all. Phanes, Ananke, Chronus, Nyx, Moros, Hypnos, Gaia, Ouranos, Chaos, alllllllllllllll of them.



Source?



LOL, source? just google orphism and you will find it, but anyway this should help you understand:

Night in her wisdom advised Zeus: Zeus, swallow me, Protogonos, the other gods and the whole world. Night said to Zeus: Zeus recreate the world according to your will when you are finished. Behold: Zeus swallows Protogonos. Zeus swallows all of the other gods. Zeus swallows the world and becomes the all; he becomes the one; he becomes the order of all things.

source: http://socraticdiscourses.blogspot.com/2011/06/orphic-creation-myth.html

another proof:

Then Zeus swallowed Phanes, and with him all previous creation (including a special race of human beings of a golden age); Zeus now created everything anew.

as you can see orphic Zeus not only swallowed everyone and everything he became the all, he became transcendent(far beyond understanding), proof:

Zeus is the air, zeus is the earth, zeus the sky, zeus is everything and something else besides. Zeus is both immanent and transcendent in one aspect, everywhere in the universe, so Zeus is both everything and something other than everything

source: ghttp://books.google.com.lb/books?id=vTfm8KHn900C&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=brahman+the+concept+of+orphic+zeus&source=bl&ots=Ia5JnQAvVq&sig=5P4u7za3NkbomIr6Z9kARtaPoJk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WVr_T7jWEsvO4QSIvNW6BA&ved=0CFEQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=brahman%20the%20concept%20of%20orphic%20zeus&f=false

also this:

“Zeus is Aithir (ed. Aether; Gr. &#913;&#7984;&#952;&#942;&#961;, &#913;&#7992;&#920;&#905;&#929wink, Zeus is earth, Zeus is heaven: Zeus, in truth, is all things and more than all.” (Aeschylus fr. 70)

this is something about phanes (who is God):

What Orpheus has asserted upon the subject is as follows: “From the beginning the Ether was manifested in time," evidently having been fabricated by God: “and on every side of the Ether was the Chaos; and gloomy Night enveloped and obscured all things which were under the Ether." by attributing to Night a priority, he intimates the explanation to be, that there existed an incomprehensible nature, and a being supreme above all others, and pre-existing, the demiurgus of all things, as well of the Ether itself (and of the night)4 as of all the creation which existed and was concealed under the Ether. Moreover he says, “Earth was invisible on account of the darkness: but the Light broke through the Ether, and illuminated the Earth and all the material of the creation:" signifying by this Light, which burst forth through the Ether, the before-mentioned being who was supreme above all things: “and its name," which Orpheus learnt from the oracle, is Metis, Phanes, Ericepæus," which in the common Greek language may be translated will (or counsel), light, life-giver; signifying, when explained, that these three powers of the three names are the one power and strength of the only God, whom no one ever beheld, and of whose power no one can have an idea or comprehend the nature. “By this power all things were produced, as well incorporeal principles as the sun and moon, and their influences, and all the stars, and the earth and the sea, and all things that are visible and invisible in them. And man," says he, “was formed by this God out of the earth, and endued with a reasonable soul," in like manner as Moses has revealed.—J. Malala, p. 89.—Ced.—Suidas v. Orpheus.

But Phanes isnt the only one who got defeated, he along with every other god and diety got defeated, as you can see you have aither who encompasses all of creation, and erebus encompasses aither and on every side of aither there is chaos, but these three along with Phanes(God) and along with every other diety got defeated and then recreated and then Zeus became them.

So the answer to this thread is that orphic Zeus is defenitely the most powerful in fact it is stated that Zeus is doubtlessly the supreme being in orphism, but in hesoid’s version and homer’s he is far from the most powerful.

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There were actually alot of creatures in Greek Mythology that surpass/could give Zeus a run for his money.

Echidna and Typhon come to mind.


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