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What was God doing for eternity before he made creation?

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03-24-2015 10:29 AM
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Chronarch wrote:

Xennotraun wrote:
“Before All Time”
“it is very hard for us to conceive of something that had no beginning, but has always been, and will continue forever”
“God always existed. He is eternal”
If this doesn’t mean “time before time” I don’t know what does.


It would really depend on how you want to go about thinking about it. The idea of “time before time” is by its nature self contradictory. Time before time existed that is. A better term would be Transcendent Time. Or a kind of time that is above our conception of time. Transcendent Time being different from simply time. We could call this Transcendent Time as Eternity. Having no beginning and no end. A concept that goes against our understanding of time which is something that does have a beginning and end.


This explains it best.


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You probably won’t like this answer but sometimes there are things/ideas we cannot or are not ready to grasp yet. That’s why, for example we don’t teach kindergarteners algebra or higher forms of math. Or when a child asks “where do babies come from?," we don’t go into details about sperms and egg cells. And that’s the case with this question.

I don’t mean to sound rude but that’s how I see it.

One thing I believe, though, is if there is something that can be infinite then it’s possible someone can be infinite too. How? eehhhh *mind explodes*


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The Simpsons, Frasier, Gunsmoke, Darkshadows, Supernatural, I Love Lucy, the Waltons, and the Beverly Hillbillies?

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09-30-2016 10:35 AM
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Xennotraun wrote: He has existed forever, right? Why did he wait infinity years to create anything?



1) You assume we are in the first universe/multiverse He ever created. This is not necessarily the case.

2) You make an incorrect assumption about the nature of the “infinitude” of the a-temporal. There were not an “infinite number” of years before “time”, so this is a nonsense question.


“A=B” is an atemporal statement. It remains the same with or without time. The nature of God (The True Creator) is like that, because Logos and Understanding are transcendent properties of reality, which is to say they supercede the laws of physics and the laws of universes and multiverses. The mere fact we can have a conversation about a multiverse shows that logos and understanding transcend them, and yes, the Creator transcends his own nature, because Logos and Understanding transcend their own nature. That is to say He is 100% self-aware, whereas humans are only partially self-aware.

So, “Time” is irrelevant.

when we speak of “Beginning” we only refer to our “Time=0” in this universe within this same multiverse, and this is irrelevant and unrelated to anything The Creator may or may not have done elsewhere. He may have made an infinite number of infinite multiverses, and they can exist without any topological relationship to our own multiverse, contrary to the “Imagining 10th Dimension” analysis of the problem, which he didn’t consider correctly; After all, I can easily show several other ways for multi-verses to exist which are unrelated to what was shown in that video.

Because Logos is Transcendent all conceivable universes do in fact exist on some level, either as a secondary reality with the Creator being the fundamental reality, or as a tertiary reality created by the beings inside one of the secondary realities, etc.

Thus the “Greatest conceivable Being” is in fact greater than or equal to LOGOS, and LOGOS is actually atemporal even though sub-sets of logos involve temporal dynamics.


This is not new philosophy. This was realized at least 3.5 thousand years ago on more than one occasion by more than one culture.

TLDR:

Your question is uninformed nonsense.

Edited 09-30-2016 10:36 AM by Wade
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09-30-2016 11:10 AM
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Let me add that they don’t explain that in Church because they don’t know that in 99.9% of churches, all they are doing is using the name of God deceitfully to rob people in many cases.

Now, because someone deceitfully uses the notion of God to rob people does not remove nor discredit the notion nor actual Being of God itself.

Poisoning the well doesn’t make God not exist.

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id like to know too.


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10-01-2016 10:44 AM
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damn my gifs dont work :'[

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Simplest answer I can give you:

The “Eternity” which exists “before” the point “T=0” is not “Temporal”.

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03-03-2019 02:05 PM
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Maybe he was busy making the Star Wars universe?

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