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Hmmm... well I like to consider myself Agnostic, because it is the most neutral, and because I truly have no way of knowing which is true or not. Though Ido lean to science/athiest side, as it is more supported by fact. But that’s me, though.

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What do I believe…

I believe that religion is just as susceptible to human influence like any other thought theory or practice.
I believe that there is some merit to belief in a higher being, I feel that this constant in human existence is not coincidence.
I do not believe in religious stories that contradict my basic understanding of how the world works.
I believe the human mind is capable of things I don’t understand.
I believe that religion should always be viewed in context.
I believe I become frustrated when history is ignored as part of the context for religious belief.
I believe I have no idea if there is anything “beyond” our universe, I believe this concept becomes more and less complicated everytime I think about it.
I do not believe in god as a conscious being.
I do not believe in god as a physical being or in the image from whence we came.
I don’t believe in ghosts as conscious beings.
I don’t believe in an afterlife.
I believe in evolution.
I do not believe in creationism.
I believe that at once humans are both very similar and very different from the rest of life on this planet.
I believe that there is life on other planets.
I believe there may be intelligent life on other planets, but I believe that we will most likely never come into any sort of contact with them.
I do not believe that science in the traditional sense is in any way objective, faultless, unbiased or superior to other ways of knowing.
I believe that there are different ways of understanding the world.
I believe that there is no universal wrong or right.
I believe that even though there is no universal wrong or right, I still believe in what should be wrong or right.
I believe that other people’s beliefs and values are to be respected even if they are different from mine.
I believe that there are varying degrees to which I will respect those that go against my values, and I believe that this is ok.
I do not believe that people are inherently good or bad, because I don’t believe in a universal right or wrong.
I believe that people are both a product of basic genetics and of social construction.
I do not believe in fate, but I do believe in connections.
I believe that there are many connections between myself and the world around me that I do not recognize.
I believe that the feeling of fulfillment and happiness is my goal in life but I believe that this goal should not come at the expense of others and should be consistent with my values.
I believe that my beliefs will continue change as long as I live.
I believe that I have an exam in two days and should get back to studying.


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04-19-2008 01:34 AM
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My beliefs are of the Nihilist philosophy. A philosophy that suggests that emotion does not exist in ways, that conscious does not exist, but only instinct, and that God is not in existance. We pretty much believe that there is no right or wrong. There are no standard morals, law has made standard morals themselves. If it were not for the law, killing someone would not be a crime, and would not be considered immoral.


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My beliefs are of the Nihilist philosophy. A philosophy that suggests that emotion does not exist in ways, that conscious does not exist, but only instinct, and that God is not in existance. We pretty much believe that there is no right or wrong. There are no standard morals, law has made standard morals themselves. If it were not for the law, killing someone would not be a crime, and would not be considered immoral.
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We can kill each other.... we can rapes woman we want... so yeah you want the world like that... what is the law...??? the law exist for you to break...

so yeah... nihilist like you just make the world even better...

I proud of you... you will become like hitler or stalin...


doing genocide and instinct... animal...


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Itachi Uchiha wrote: My beliefs are of the Nihilist philosophy. A philosophy that suggests that emotion does not exist in ways, that conscious does not exist, but only instinct, and that God is not in existance. We pretty much believe that there is no right or wrong. There are no standard morals, law has made standard morals themselves. If it were not for the law, killing someone would not be a crime, and would not be considered immoral.
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We can kill each other.... we can rapes woman we want... so yeah you want the world like that... what is the law...??? the law exist for you to break...

so yeah... nihilist like you just make the world even better...

I proud of you... you will become like hitler or stalin...


doing genocide and instinct... animal...



Yes, you can do whatever you want, there is nothing stopping you except the law as of now because morals were never definately written except by other human beings. People also create morals in their head. I personally believe that rape and murder is a sick, and repulsive thing and wuold never do it, but that does not mean everyone thinks the same way. The law exists to prevent that and to maintain order.

No, we don’t make the world better or worse. We just have philosophy. Too bad Islam does not make the world better, considering most are violent murderers who kill in the name of Allah and knock down buildings like pussies to try and scare people, rather than confronting them themselves and fighting. The Muslims just have to be cocroaches hiding in the dark and striking because they know they are weak, pathetic, idiotic morons such as yourself.

Fuck Hitler and Stalin they are assholes. Too bad people like you always end up like Sadam Hussein wink
You also failed to realize that Hitler was a Christian. Shows you how educated you are. Oh well, who am I to judge? I really should not be taking religious advice from a 17 year old Naurto fannatic nerd on the internet.

You are such a hypocrite and retard. Just stop posting on the religious forum with your idiocy. You are not changing anything, you are annoying the hell out of people with lies and pathetic attempts to win argument. Too bad you always lose because your head is so far up religion’s ass that you refuse to look at actual fact and look at what your holy book says. It is the people like you who ruin religion.

EDIT: And oh yes, the typical religious man’s insult to a non believer. “Animal." You are a retard. Get your head out of religions ass and look at facts, not what a fictional, dead person from thousands of years ago says, considering people back then knew nothing of the world and were too lazy to study so they answered all the questions like “god did it."


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04-24-2008 09:54 AM
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petrofsky, i luv u! itachi is such a religious freak. he refuses to look at facts and at what a fictional story says.

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I don’t think Atheists are animals, but how is believing a diety made the universe any more pathetic than any other explanation? You’ve given no reason, just said it is. It’s not an excuse, creation IS the explanation and it seems more sensible to me that some intelligent made the universe than nothing triggered the expansion of the first singularity.

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Sean of the Living wrote: I don’t think Atheists are animals, but how is believing a diety made the universe any more pathetic than any other explanation? You’ve given no reason, just said it is. It’s not an excuse, creation IS the explanation and it seems more sensible to me that some intelligent made the universe than nothing triggered the expansion of the first singularity.




Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, something which Itachi does not understand.

At first, religion was a good idea, but it was the people who ran it and followed it that fucked it up.

How can you prove that creation is the answer? The story is extremely far fetched. Darwin’s evolution theory is alot more reasonable and contains physical proof.


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hmmmmm... it has been a while, and no response from Itachi?


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That’s no reason to say he can’t answer, this thread is stickied but it’s not that popular and isn’t constantly revisited, because most people just come on here, explain their beliefs and go off to other threads.

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petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote: I don’t think Atheists are animals, but how is believing a diety made the universe any more pathetic than any other explanation? You’ve given no reason, just said it is. It’s not an excuse, creation IS the explanation and it seems more sensible to me that some intelligent made the universe than nothing triggered the expansion of the first singularity.




Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, something which Itachi does not understand.

At first, religion was a good idea, but it was the people who ran it and followed it that fucked it up.

How can you prove that creation is the answer? The story is extremely far fetched. Darwin’s evolution theory is alot more reasonable and contains physical proof.



I think creation is a more resonable explanation to the beginning of the universe, the laws of physics et cetera, not necessarily to do with the beginning of life or how it evolved into it’s modern state. I believe evolution happens, it’s been shown that it happens in drug resistant bacteria and fossils. It’s just that what I was speaking about wasn’t to do with evolution.

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Sean of the Living wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote: I don’t think Atheists are animals, but how is believing a diety made the universe any more pathetic than any other explanation? You’ve given no reason, just said it is. It’s not an excuse, creation IS the explanation and it seems more sensible to me that some intelligent made the universe than nothing triggered the expansion of the first singularity.




Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, something which Itachi does not understand.

At first, religion was a good idea, but it was the people who ran it and followed it that fucked it up.

How can you prove that creation is the answer? The story is extremely far fetched. Darwin’s evolution theory is alot more reasonable and contains physical proof.



I think creation is a more resonable explanation to the beginning of the universe, the laws of physics et cetera, not necessarily to do with the beginning of life or how it evolved into it’s modern state. I believe evolution happens, it’s been shown that it happens in drug resistant bacteria and fossils. It’s just that what I was speaking about wasn’t to do with evolution.



I find creation to be very inaccurate mainly because it cannot be proven, either way, creation (of the universe) or not, there are still lots of questions.

NON-CREATION

How was the universe made?

CREATION

Who made God? Everything has a beginning.


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petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote: I don’t think Atheists are animals, but how is believing a diety made the universe any more pathetic than any other explanation? You’ve given no reason, just said it is. It’s not an excuse, creation IS the explanation and it seems more sensible to me that some intelligent made the universe than nothing triggered the expansion of the first singularity.




Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, something which Itachi does not understand.

At first, religion was a good idea, but it was the people who ran it and followed it that fucked it up.

How can you prove that creation is the answer? The story is extremely far fetched. Darwin’s evolution theory is alot more reasonable and contains physical proof.



I think creation is a more resonable explanation to the beginning of the universe, the laws of physics et cetera, not necessarily to do with the beginning of life or how it evolved into it’s modern state. I believe evolution happens, it’s been shown that it happens in drug resistant bacteria and fossils. It’s just that what I was speaking about wasn’t to do with evolution.



I find creation to be very inaccurate mainly because it cannot be proven, either way, creation (of the universe) or not, there are still lots of questions.

NON-CREATION

How was the universe made?

CREATION

Who made God? Everything has a beginning.



An Eternal cannot have a beginning and is not subject to the laws of causation(sp?). If it did it wouldn’t be Eternal. I’ve explained this so many times. Watch this video; I know it’s by VenomFangX but it helps clear up the concept of Eternal anyway:

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Yay God! grin


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Sean of the Living wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote: I don’t think Atheists are animals, but how is believing a diety made the universe any more pathetic than any other explanation? You’ve given no reason, just said it is. It’s not an excuse, creation IS the explanation and it seems more sensible to me that some intelligent made the universe than nothing triggered the expansion of the first singularity.




Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, something which Itachi does not understand.

At first, religion was a good idea, but it was the people who ran it and followed it that fucked it up.

How can you prove that creation is the answer? The story is extremely far fetched. Darwin’s evolution theory is alot more reasonable and contains physical proof.



I think creation is a more resonable explanation to the beginning of the universe, the laws of physics et cetera, not necessarily to do with the beginning of life or how it evolved into it’s modern state. I believe evolution happens, it’s been shown that it happens in drug resistant bacteria and fossils. It’s just that what I was speaking about wasn’t to do with evolution.



I find creation to be very inaccurate mainly because it cannot be proven, either way, creation (of the universe) or not, there are still lots of questions.

NON-CREATION

How was the universe made?

CREATION

Who made God? Everything has a beginning.



An Eternal cannot have a beginning and is not subject to the laws of causation(sp?). If it did it wouldn’t be Eternal. I’ve explained this so many times. Watch this video; I know it’s by VenomFangX but it helps clear up the concept of Eternal anyway:



I find that very hard to believe that “God Has been around forever” Nothing can be around forever. Even if he did live forever, why did he make all of this? Why did he make us? I find creation theories to be a lazy way of answering complex questions.


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petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote: I don’t think Atheists are animals, but how is believing a diety made the universe any more pathetic than any other explanation? You’ve given no reason, just said it is. It’s not an excuse, creation IS the explanation and it seems more sensible to me that some intelligent made the universe than nothing triggered the expansion of the first singularity.




Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, something which Itachi does not understand.

At first, religion was a good idea, but it was the people who ran it and followed it that fucked it up.

How can you prove that creation is the answer? The story is extremely far fetched. Darwin’s evolution theory is alot more reasonable and contains physical proof.



I think creation is a more resonable explanation to the beginning of the universe, the laws of physics et cetera, not necessarily to do with the beginning of life or how it evolved into it’s modern state. I believe evolution happens, it’s been shown that it happens in drug resistant bacteria and fossils. It’s just that what I was speaking about wasn’t to do with evolution.



I find creation to be very inaccurate mainly because it cannot be proven, either way, creation (of the universe) or not, there are still lots of questions.

NON-CREATION

How was the universe made?

CREATION

Who made God? Everything has a beginning.



An Eternal cannot have a beginning and is not subject to the laws of causation(sp?). If it did it wouldn’t be Eternal. I’ve explained this so many times. Watch this video; I know it’s by VenomFangX but it helps clear up the concept of Eternal anyway:



I find that very hard to believe that “God Has been around forever” Nothing can be around forever. Even if he did live forever, why did he make all of this? Why did he make us? I find creation theories to be a lazy way of answering complex questions.



Something that created time is not going to need to bow to these laws of time, especially if it were before these laws.

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I believe your wrong and so am I

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Sean of the Living wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote: I don’t think Atheists are animals, but how is believing a diety made the universe any more pathetic than any other explanation? You’ve given no reason, just said it is. It’s not an excuse, creation IS the explanation and it seems more sensible to me that some intelligent made the universe than nothing triggered the expansion of the first singularity.




Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, something which Itachi does not understand.

At first, religion was a good idea, but it was the people who ran it and followed it that fucked it up.

How can you prove that creation is the answer? The story is extremely far fetched. Darwin’s evolution theory is alot more reasonable and contains physical proof.



I think creation is a more resonable explanation to the beginning of the universe, the laws of physics et cetera, not necessarily to do with the beginning of life or how it evolved into it’s modern state. I believe evolution happens, it’s been shown that it happens in drug resistant bacteria and fossils. It’s just that what I was speaking about wasn’t to do with evolution.



I find creation to be very inaccurate mainly because it cannot be proven, either way, creation (of the universe) or not, there are still lots of questions.

NON-CREATION

How was the universe made?

CREATION

Who made God? Everything has a beginning.



An Eternal cannot have a beginning and is not subject to the laws of causation(sp?). If it did it wouldn’t be Eternal. I’ve explained this so many times. Watch this video; I know it’s by VenomFangX but it helps clear up the concept of Eternal anyway:



I find that very hard to believe that “God Has been around forever” Nothing can be around forever. Even if he did live forever, why did he make all of this? Why did he make us? I find creation theories to be a lazy way of answering complex questions.



Something that created time is not going to need to bow to these laws of time, especially if it were before these laws.




How could something create time without time being before it? It does not make sense.


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petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote:

petrofsky wrote:

Sean of the Living wrote: I don’t think Atheists are animals, but how is believing a diety made the universe any more pathetic than any other explanation? You’ve given no reason, just said it is. It’s not an excuse, creation IS the explanation and it seems more sensible to me that some intelligent made the universe than nothing triggered the expansion of the first singularity.




Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, something which Itachi does not understand.

At first, religion was a good idea, but it was the people who ran it and followed it that fucked it up.

How can you prove that creation is the answer? The story is extremely far fetched. Darwin’s evolution theory is alot more reasonable and contains physical proof.



I think creation is a more resonable explanation to the beginning of the universe, the laws of physics et cetera, not necessarily to do with the beginning of life or how it evolved into it’s modern state. I believe evolution happens, it’s been shown that it happens in drug resistant bacteria and fossils. It’s just that what I was speaking about wasn’t to do with evolution.



I find creation to be very inaccurate mainly because it cannot be proven, either way, creation (of the universe) or not, there are still lots of questions.

NON-CREATION

How was the universe made?

CREATION

Who made God? Everything has a beginning.



An Eternal cannot have a beginning and is not subject to the laws of causation(sp?). If it did it wouldn’t be Eternal. I’ve explained this so many times. Watch this video; I know it’s by VenomFangX but it helps clear up the concept of Eternal anyway:



I find that very hard to believe that “God Has been around forever” Nothing can be around forever. Even if he did live forever, why did he make all of this? Why did he make us? I find creation theories to be a lazy way of answering complex questions.



Something that created time is not going to need to bow to these laws of time, especially if it were before these laws.




How could something create time without time being before it? It does not make sense.



Well it might not have been “before” in a sense if there was no rigid rules to do with time like we have now.

Btw this isn’t a debate thread.

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