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[Reply] #61
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fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote: Plus, lets not forget the Damage done to indiginous people of north america by the US, and the indiginous people of India, Africa, and Australia, and people in europe, scotland, and ireland by the british.



Not a cause of Religion but a cause of Imperialism.

Loca-Maca wrote:

Dupontx123 wrote: I was joking. Poverty or a struggle for survival is a cause for terroism. UAE is a very, very, very wealthy country.

BUT Islam has been on the war path since the death of Muhammad.



I know Im gonna live there when I grow up grin

and no it hasnt



Um, yes it has.

Edited 09-20-2007 07:09 PM by Dupontx123
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Guys most of you are being racy towards Islam because thats what the AMERICAN media has brainwashed you to think that way. And its the same way overseas, over there everyone acts like the US is the most evil empire. It just makes me sick that both sides think that there both 100% right and the other is 100% wrong. I am a muslim but I do admit that some people overseas should be more wanting for peace than war


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But I think Zeitgeist movie was right in this aspect. Whether or not organized religions have preached truthly or falsely governements and heads of organized religions have used these religions as a way of controlling people. First of all take them over. Second force them to go to your religion. Thirdly over time generations will be brainwashed and molded into the way you make them. So molding them by a theocracy that ties religion into all politics makes people think that they have to fight for their religion as the government preaches. Once you have that you have complete control over your people and complete power. Thus you’ll get things like you see in most theocracies. It works the same way as you’ve seen with brainwashing by governments through nationalism such as what you saw with Hitler in Nazi Germany and after 9/11 in America.

These kinda things are some of the most powerful tools used by governments as it gives them absolute power and control. All falsely and wrongly under the religions or constitutions they run under.

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Very well said my friend.

~Religion can never reform mankind because religion is slavery.~

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Dupontx123 wrote:

fuckyfuckerfuckingmcfuckfuck69 wrote: Plus, lets not forget the Damage done to indiginous people of north america by the US, and the indiginous people of India, Africa, and Australia, and people in europe, scotland, and ireland by the british.



Not a cause of Religion but a cause of Imperialism.

Loca-Maca wrote:

Dupontx123 wrote: I was joking. Poverty or a struggle for survival is a cause for terroism. UAE is a very, very, very wealthy country.

BUT Islam has been on the war path since the death of Muhammad.



I know Im gonna live there when I grow up grin

and no it hasnt



Um, yes it has.



no it hasnt


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Lol pay attention in history.

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I do and I have know more about mohammeds death than you do cus I studied it overseas. There was alot of peace after his death, YOU need to pay attention in history.


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A lot of peace!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests

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they hardly talk about any wars, mostly just about muslims trying to get more followers and theres nothing violnet about that

and wikipedia is a crap source, you do know that ANYONE can edit it, right?


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They almost conquered all of Europe you idiot. Charles Martel stopped them when they reached Frankish territory at the Battle of Tours.

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Dupontx123 wrote: They almost conquered all of Europe you idiot. Charles Martel stopped them when they reached Frankish territory at the Battle of Tours.


Wrong, they went through northern africa, into spain, and then Martel stopped em.


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Shit your right, there wouldn’t have been a force strong enough to stop them after that.

<--------retard

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Loca-Maca wrote: Guys most of you are being racy towards Islam because thats what the AMERICAN media has brainwashed you to think that way. And its the same way overseas, over there everyone acts like the US is the most evil empire. It just makes me sick that both sides think that there both 100% right and the other is 100% wrong. I am a muslim but I do admit that some people overseas should be more wanting for peace than war



Religion has brainwashed far more people and in far worse ways than the American media ever could.


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Edited 09-20-2007 09:19 PM by ramunematt
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ramunematt wrote:

Loca-Maca wrote: Guys most of you are being racy towards Islam because thats what the AMERICAN media has brainwashed you to think that way. And its the same way overseas, over there everyone acts like the US is the most evil empire. It just makes me sick that both sides think that there both 100% right and the other is 100% wrong. I am a muslim but I do admit that some people overseas should be more wanting for peace than war



Religion has brainwashed far more people and in far worse ways than the American media ever could.



Both have equally brainwashed millions. Haha I mean Americans are so stupid that they actually believe that an entire tower was destroyed by a plane crashing into it which caused the support beams to melt but on that that same plane a passport made of paper survived that told us who the terrorists were. If that’s not stupidity by brainwashing then I don’t know what is.

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Zucas wrote:

ramunematt wrote:

Loca-Maca wrote: Guys most of you are being racy towards Islam because thats what the AMERICAN media has brainwashed you to think that way. And its the same way overseas, over there everyone acts like the US is the most evil empire. It just makes me sick that both sides think that there both 100% right and the other is 100% wrong. I am a muslim but I do admit that some people overseas should be more wanting for peace than war



Religion has brainwashed far more people and in far worse ways than the American media ever could.



Both have equally brainwashed millions. Haha I mean Americans are so stupid that they actually believe that an entire tower was destroyed by a plane crashing into it which caused the support beams to melt but on that that same plane a passport made of paper survived that told us who the terrorists were. If that’s not stupidity by brainwashing then I don’t know what is.




yes, ppl say well it’s all in physics
“if an object collides in the center of a pillar it’s destroyed”
that’s true
but the planes crashed in upper areas and not the center
and the fire was too weak to actually melt the steel or even weaken the tower’s support

it just don’t make sense

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u don’t say that to them! i’m german and i don’t worship Nazi in fact, my family moved over here to get away from them. muslims are people too


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It hasn’t occured to anyone that maybe the terrorists planted explosives in the building prior to when they attacked? Many workers were quoted saying," There were 3 explosions then two big booms!" But who said they saw a US demo-squad planting charges all over the building. Surely it couldn’t have been a second group of radicals either planting bombs and leaving or planting the bombs and meeting their maker.

Look at the obvious people.

They tried it once already with a truck bomb in 93' by Ramzi Yousef, who was. . . omg an al-Qaeda leader!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To think the US government killed 3,000 of its own people is bull.

Edited 09-20-2007 10:44 PM by Dupontx123
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Zucas wrote:

ramunematt wrote:

Loca-Maca wrote: Guys most of you are being racy towards Islam because thats what the AMERICAN media has brainwashed you to think that way. And its the same way overseas, over there everyone acts like the US is the most evil empire. It just makes me sick that both sides think that there both 100% right and the other is 100% wrong. I am a muslim but I do admit that some people overseas should be more wanting for peace than war



Religion has brainwashed far more people and in far worse ways than the American media ever could.



Both have equally brainwashed millions. Haha I mean Americans are so stupid that they actually believe that an entire tower was destroyed by a plane crashing into it which caused the support beams to melt but on that that same plane a passport made of paper survived that told us who the terrorists were. If that’s not stupidity by brainwashing then I don’t know what is.



Well Americans are being constantly brainwashed, but for how long compared to religion?

Religion easily brainwashed more people than the American media.


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Loca-Maca wrote:

Maggot Face wrote: Here’s a quick something.

Five Pillars of Islam:

There is only one God, and Muhammad is his messenger.

A Muslim must pray five times a day.

All able Muslims are to give to charity frequently.

Fasting is to be practiced, unless medical reasons interfere.

All Muslims capable of doing so are to make a pilgrimage to Mecca.










Wow. Sounds evil.




That has got to be one of the dumbest comments ive ever read on this site. explain to me how one of the five pillars are 'evil'


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Dupontx123 wrote: It hasn’t occured to anyone that maybe the terrorists planted explosives in the building prior to when they attacked? Many workers were quoted saying," There were 3 explosions then two big booms!" But who said they saw a US demo-squad planting charges all over the building. Surely it couldn’t have been a second group of radicals either planting bombs and leaving or planting the bombs and meeting their maker.

Look at the obvious people.

They tried it once already with a truck bomb in 93' by Ramzi Yousef, who was. . . omg an al-Qaeda leader!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To think the US government killed 3,000 of its own people is bull.



http://www.serendipity.li/wot/911_a_hoax.htm

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