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Rich616 wrote: That’s all well and good, but when they all-but run the world’s foremost superpower and constantly dumb it’s people down, influence their opinion and push them towards war that’s a different story. Many Jews in Israel can even see this, and openly oppose it.

When you read antisemetic literature, it says “Jews corrupts society by buying politicians with their wealthy elites and manipulating public opinion through control of media. When you read antigay literature, it says “Gays corrupts society by buying politicians with their wealthy elites and manipulating public opinion through control of media." Lazy bigots can’t even make up their own conspiracy theories...SMH...


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And not for nothing; but if Israel owned western media, Haaretz wouldn’t be the only paper reporting the shot palestinian soccer players had previously had their travel visas denied for associating with terrorists + were allegedly approaching an Israeli checkpoint with explosives when they were shot.


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Nothing you’re saying can disprove the facts I:

Israel dominates the US' politics and media. They have a type of lobbying power that is unnatural and even many American congressmen, House members and Jews acknowledge this. But I guess they’re all just a bunch of antisemites.

Edited 07-07-2014 04:54 PM by Rich-616
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Rich616 wrote: Nothing you’re saying can disprove the facts I:

Israel dominates the US' politics and media. They have a type of lobbying power that is unnatural and even many American congressmen, House members and Jews acknowledge this. But I guess they’re all just a bunch of antisemites.

Special Interest $$$ in general dominates US politics, and any cause (foriegn or domestic) that wants the government to be responsive to its needs plays the lobbying game. #1 on the list of special interests that buy our government are the military contractors (Haliburton, Lockhead Martin, Boeing...). #2 are the internet, cable, and electric utilities companies (time-warner, comcast, general electric, verizon, AT&T...). #3 are the insurance companies and the corporate healthcare lobby. (ETNA, Horizon Blue Cross, Nationwide Insurance, Statefarm Insurance, GIECO...). WAY down the list is the israel lobby; singling them out for playing the game and acting like theirs something particularly dirty about the Israel Lobby for playing it (and then going off on an POTEOZ side-rant about how jews control the media) is just a tad bit antisemetic.


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No, it’s not. You don’t seem to realize the significance of their ability to influence us through lobbying. We’ve been to war because of Israeli interests and influence through their lobbying. Hell, they’ve been trying as hard as they can to get us into war with Iran and they’ve damn-near accomplished that several times through lobbying and terribly biased “US” media.

Being realistic isn’t antisemetic, it’s being realistic. You honestly think you know better than people in the government who can clearly explain how Israel dominates our politics? Nevermind the multitude of Jews who are outspoken about the shit their government does.

Edited 07-08-2014 10:30 PM by Rich-616
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Not that Israel losing its seat in FIFA is a big deal or anything, but that’s all kinds of fucked up. They’re savages, tbh.


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Rich616 wrote: No, it’s not. You don’t seem to realize the significance of their ability to influence us through lobbying. We’ve been to WAR because of Israeli interests and influence through their lobbying. Hell, they’ve been trying as hard as they can to get us into war with Iran and they’ve damn-near accomplished that several times through lobbying and terribly biased “US” media.

Being realistic isn’t antisemetic, it’s being realistic. You honestly think you know better than people in the government who can clearly explain how Israel dominates our politics? Nevermind the multitude of Jews who are outspoken about the shit their government does.

>>>military contractors are the top lobbiests of the US government and funders of its politicians

>>>Believes Israel lobby is the reason America is constantly at war. (because “people in the government” said so)

...I don’t suppose its occurred to you that politicians lie, scapegoat, and pander to popular prejudice?


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KIlluminatic wrote: Not that Israel losing its seat in FIFA is a big deal or anything, but that’s all kinds of fucked up. They’re savages, tbh.

who dat ?

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The incandescent paragons of humanity that fired on mere athletes...?


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> Say they have a right to the land since they always had a connection and that nobody has the right to drive them out

> Drove out people living there according to their own holy book.

Jews logic.

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KIlluminatic wrote: The incandescent paragons of humanity that fired on mere athletes...?

...that would be the Palestinisns... (Munich Massacre ringing any bells?) Heres the diffeeence between Israel and Palestine, ass they are treated on the world stage. When Israelis shoots 2 soccer players dead at a military checkpoint and accuses them of cobspiring with terrorist organizatiobs + carrying explosives, the world disbelieves their explanation. When Palestinians murder 11 Israeli athletes in their hotel rooms, the world doesn’t care that they had no explanation and just wanted to murder Israelis. (and then Israel gets condemned by UN resolution when it hunts down the terrorists who planned the attack)


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You’re just dancing around the point.

“Don’t worry about American pressure. We, the Jewish people control America."- former PM Ariel Sharon.

“I know what America is. America is something you can move very easily, in the right direction."- PM Netanyahu

They’ve said it themselves. Do some research on AIPAC, the American Zionist Council and the Israel lobby here. And veto’s by the US to avoid any negative views on Israel and their control of US media. You just might learn something.

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KIlluminatic wrote: The incandescent paragons of humanity that fired on mere athletes...?

...that would be the Palestinisns... (Munich Massacre ringing any bells?) [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1bV18rcHvto/UBJJ9MZXDFI/AAAAAAAAIvI/Votj5zwGR4Y/s400/Munich%2Bmassacre.jpg[/img] Heres the diffeeence between Israel and Palestine, ass they are treated on the world stage. When Israelis shoots 2 soccer players dead at a military checkpoint and accuses them of cobspiring with terrorist organizatiobs + carrying explosives, the world disbelieves their explanation. When Palestinians murder 11 Israeli athletes in their hotel rooms, the world doesn’t care that they had no explanation and just wanted to murder Israelis. (and then Israel gets condemned by UN resolution when it hunts down the terrorists who planned the attack)



The thing is, Mossad cause a lot of casuality.I remember them killing a random bartender in Norway.Ive seen pics of Soldiers using teenagers as shields, and they sure as hell werent photoshopped.

Israel aint no saints.They do a lot of dirty things. (Obv still not as bad as hamas but still)

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GGGGL wrote:

Brawndo the Thirst Mutilator wrote:

KIlluminatic wrote: The incandescent paragons of humanity that fired on mere athletes...?

...that would be the Palestinisns... (Munich Massacre ringing any bells?) Heres the diffeeence between Israel and Palestine, ass they are treated on the world stage. When Israelis shoots 2 soccer players dead at a military checkpoint and accuses them of cobspiring with terrorist organizatiobs + carrying explosives, the world disbelieves their explanation. When Palestinians murder 11 Israeli athletes in their hotel rooms, the world doesn’t care that they had no explanation and just wanted to murder Israelis. (and then Israel gets condemned by UN resolution when it hunts down the terrorists who planned the attack)



The thing is, Mossad cause a lot of casuality.I remember them killing a random bartender in Norway.Ive seen pics of Soldiers using teenagers as shields, and they sure as hell werent photoshopped.

Israel aint no saints.They do a lot of dirty things. (Obv still not as bad as hamas but still)

“Hamas” is the arab word for “chaos," which right off the bat tells you what they’re about. A favorite Hamas tactic is to build bombs, fire rockets, and train gunmen in residential neighborhoods and schoolzones. Such that the IDF must either leave their bombers and gunmen and rocketeers unmolested or assume the moral hazard of high collatetal damage urban warfare in the course of standard counter-terror ops. When Hamas is your worst enemy and your closest neighbor, you get your hands dirty or you die.

“Israel exists and will continue to exist until Islam obliterates it. The day of judgement will not come until Moslems fight the Jews, killing the Jews. The rocks and the trees will say 'O Moslems, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me! Come and kill him!'“ -The Hamas Charter-


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Hamas doesn’t translate to chaos though...

Edit : oh nvm, turns out sometimes it does :T


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All this week, Hamas has been doing that thing they do where they launch hundreds of rockets into Israel from residential neighborhoods (hoping that palestinian civilians will die and israel will be condemned in the resulting counter-terrorism ops. Israel has in fact attacked the rocket launchers and palestinian civilians have in fact died. Israel has been condemned. Hamas has not. (...so it goes...)


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Hamas has been condemned; a lot more than Israel in the past. Its only recently that people are beginning to see that Israel is a state of liars lol.


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6Faggotus6Maximus6 wrote: Hamas has been condemned; a lot more than Israel in the past. Its only recently that people are beginning to see that Israel is a state of liars lol.


They’re a western society, of course they lie.

That doesn’t change the fact that what they are fighting is way worse.


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Brawndo the Thirst Mutilator wrote: “They own the banks and the media!" became the new antisemetic byline after “They killed our Lord!" went out of vouge. [FUN FACT]: The reason Jews took to banking and financing in the first place was because during Europe’s guilded age, when you needed to be a member of a trade guild to be a blacksmith or a tanner or a mason, jews were banned from the trade guilds by christian theocrats. Banking (an unguilded trade still in its infancy) was the only advanced field that highly educated jews looking for work outside of jewish communities were allowed to enter. We just worked with what you gave us.



It’s like I’m in the Third Reich where Hitler propounded theories about an evil Jewish cabal of bankers ruling the world.


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The Ancient Apocalypse wrote:

6Faggotus6Maximus6 wrote: Hamas has been condemned; a lot more than Israel in the past. Its only recently that people are beginning to see that Israel is a state of liars lol.


They’re a western society, of course they lie.

That doesn’t change the fact that what they are fighting is way worse.



Global scheming aside, Israel and Hamas are both firing rockets at each other. The only difference is that Israel is consistently killing civilians, including children. And at the same time bulldozing Palestinians out of their homes while trying to maintain the image of being morally justified.

Edited 07-11-2014 08:36 PM by Rich-616

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