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Rich616 wrote: Yeah, that' true. It’s a very covert war so story’s like this are easy to manipulate one way or the other.

No one’s entirely innocent but you have to wonder what would drive a nation to do the kind of shit they’re doing as far as war and the banks go.


Self-preservation and paranoia.

If you were surrounded by enemies and constantly being forced to be in high alert, you’d probably be the same way.

Edited 07-07-2014 04:00 AM by Raniero
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AIDB wrote: I wouldn’t step foot in any middle eastern country either with their current regimes


I wouldn’t do it regardless because the environment is unsafe and hostile, plain and simple.

And Saddam was killed on tape. The fuck?


You’ve ever seen this tape?

And I said it was a possibility. They apparently just threw his body into the ocean and that was that.

Either way, if it’s true that he was killed in that operation, it doesn’t look good for Pakistan.

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Raniero wrote:
Are you implying that America was massacring Iraqis during this period?

Sorry, not 8 million. My bad

But

Estimated violent deaths:
Lancet survey (March 2003 July 2006): 601,027 (95% CI: 426,369793,663)[38][39]
Iraq Family Health Survey (March 2003 July 2006): 151,000 (95% CI: 104,000223,000)[40]

Documented deaths from violence:
Iraq Body Count (2003 14 December 2011): 103,160113,728 civilian deaths recorded,[41] and 12,438 new deaths added from the Iraq War Logs[42]
Associated Press (March 2003 April 2009): 110,600[43]



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Raniero wrote:

AIDB wrote: I wouldn’t step foot in any middle eastern country either with their current regimes


I wouldn’t do it regardless because the environment is unsafe and hostile, plain and simple.

And Saddam was killed on tape. The fuck?


You’ve ever seen this tape?

And I said it was a possibility. They apparently just threw his body into the ocean and that was that.

Either way, if it’s true that he was killed in that operation, it doesn’t look good for Pakistan.

Yes, I have seen the tape. And nigga you’re thinking of Osama, not Saddam.

As far as I know Iran has publicly acknowledged that they despite Osama just as much as the rest of the world. And obviously they gonna hate Saddam too for putting down chemical warfare on them

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Most of that was collateral.

The suicide bombings and IEDs certainly didn’t help lessen the numbers--you know, something that AL Qaeda and other such organizations practiced?

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AIDB wrote: Yes, I have seen the tape. And nigga you’re thinking of Osama, not Saddam.


Yeah, I blundered.

As far as I know Iran has publicly acknowledged that they despite Osama just as much as the rest of the world. And obviously they gonna hate Saddam too for putting down chemical warfare on them


Iran can say all that want. A great number of sympathisers still exists.

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Raniero wrote: Most of that was collateral.

The suicide bombings and IEDs certainly didn’t help lessen the numbers--you know, something that AL Qaeda and other such organizations practiced?

How many suicide bombers do you think there were? Maybe a 100 - at the very most a 1000.

Also, Al-Qaeda is only about 2500 strong in Iraq anyway. We went there for oil and everyone knows this. lol

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Raniero wrote:

Rich616 wrote: Yeah, that' true. It’s a very covert war so story’s like this are easy to manipulate one way or the other.

No one’s entirely innocent but you have to wonder what would drive a nation to do the kind of shit they’re doing as far as war and the banks go.


Self-preservation and paranoia.

If you were surrounded by enemies and constantly being forced to be in high alert, you’d probably be the same way.



That doesn’t quite explain why they’ve taken over the banks of at least five major Middle Eastern nations. Or why they run our federal reserve, own just about every major television/entertainment network here, and generally influence us in ways beyond just war. Hell, we give them billions of dollars every year while they pretty much control our money-supply.

Most of the shit the “US” does to dumb us down can be linked back to Israel.

Edited 07-07-2014 04:10 AM by Rich-616
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AIDB wrote: How many suicide bombers do you think there were? Maybe a 100 - at the very most a 1000.


I also mentioned IED. Those took the largest numbers of lives in the long period of US occupation if I’m not mistaken.

Which is why I say a lot of civilian death was collateral.

Also, Al-Qaeda is only about 2500 strong in Iraq anyway. We went there for oil and everyone knows this. lol


I agree, the reason we were given was a cover-up, but don’t act like all those deaths were directly our fault.

Edited 07-07-2014 04:11 AM by Raniero
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also watch that. Fucking disheartening

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Rich616 wrote: That doesn’t quite explain why they’ve taken over the banks of at least five major Middle Eastern nations. Or why they run our federal reserve, own just about every major television/entertainment network here, and generally influence us in ways beyond just war. Hell, we give them billions of dollars every year while they pretty much control our money-supply.

Most of the shit the “US” does to dumb us down can be linked back to Israel.


To your first paragraph--I could say the same thing about the US. lol

We like to stick our noses into everything.

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AIDB wrote:



also watch that. Fucking disheartening


Are you generalizing an entire military based off the actions of a few bad apples?

This is something that is seen in EVERY war tbh.

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AIDB wrote: How many suicide bombers do you think there were? Maybe a 100 - at the very most a 1000.


Depends on how many go in to work at a given day. But really any of them could end up being one. And people like that reach out to western youth and shit.

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Raniero wrote:

AIDB wrote:



also watch that. Fucking disheartening


Are you generalizing an entire military based off the actions of a few bad apples?

This is something that is seen in EVERY war tbh.

Nah I’m not generalizing. Just saying shit like that did go down over there and we did absolutely FUCK them up even though we removed Saddam.

Anyway what I learned today is that Shob is a racist scumbag. And not the passable kind of racist, but rather “fuck the brown people let’s kill them all before they kill us even though we pretty much instigated everything” type

Edited 07-07-2014 04:19 AM by AIDB
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AIDB wrote:



also watch that. Fucking disheartening



“No unarmed people were hurt”


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Nena wrote:

AIDB wrote:



also watch that. Fucking disheartening



“No unarmed people were hurt”

That’s obviously sarcasm. These people were running in their cars and the soldiers started shooting down bullets on them

Edited 07-07-2014 04:23 AM by AIDB
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AIDB wrote: Nah I’m not generalizing. Just saying shit like that did go down over there and we did absolutely FUCK them up even though we removed Saddam.


I don’t think a lot of stuff that has ended up happening could have been foreseen.

Bush did fuck up with that invasion though. It became chaotic with Saddam gone.

Edited 07-07-2014 04:22 AM by Raniero
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Raniero wrote:

Rich616 wrote: That doesn’t quite explain why they’ve taken over the banks of at least five major Middle Eastern nations. Or why they run our federal reserve, own just about every major television/entertainment network here, and generally influence us in ways beyond just war. Hell, we give them billions of dollars every year while they pretty much control our money-supply.

Most of the shit the “US” does to dumb us down can be linked back to Israel.


To your first paragraph--I could say the same thing about the US. lol



You could, but the US has honestly been nothing but an extension of Israel. They influence our politics, run our money, own the channels where we get our information on worldly matters.

They’re not even good at hiding this shit. All of the networks like Fox are so blindly supportive of every last thing Israel does. It’s fucking pathetic that they’ve gotten this far. Obama’s the first president that’s actually put some distance between the two country’s.

Hell, Netanyahu was even caught on camera saying that the US is “something easily moved” towards what Israel wants. Shit is just intolerable.

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Though this shit was really fucked up.




“Dear Lebanese/Palestinian/Arab/Muslim/Christians Kids,

Die with love.

Yours,
Israeli Kids”

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This is why we needed Hitler

Imagine a world where America and Germany teamed up


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