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Every country’s done some shit naturally, but Israel is truly different. For the past few years they’ve been lobbying in the US to get us to join them in a war against Iran. A nation that’s a part of the NPT, where as Israel isn’t, and actually has nukes.

They know full-well it’d become an international conflict and just don’t give a shit. Their attitude with Palestine is the same.

Edited 07-07-2014 03:27 AM by Rich-616
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If I’m not mistaken, Iran’s threatened Israel numerous times and they’re adamant about Iran not having nukes because they feel threatened by it, considering Iran’s hostility towards them.

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Yet they have illegal nukes themselves and are as warmongering as they come. Same regime who was gloating that they sent bombs in middle of the street just to kill some Hamas leader

Edited 07-07-2014 03:34 AM by AIDB
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They’re so military because they’re literally surrounded from all sides by enemies who want them gone, on every border. They’d be idiotic not to be.

And what do you mean by illegal nukes?

Same regime who was gloating that they sent bombs in middle of the street just to kill some Hamas leader


It’s funny, because the Muslims who attack them would gloat about it too.

The Hamas are just as violent, if not more so, against Israel. Stop being so bias.

Edited 07-07-2014 03:37 AM by Raniero
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There’s been a back-and-forth between them and Iran for a long time. Both have threatened each other. The difference is that Iran’s pretty much the only nation to call them out on their international crimes and control over the US.

The IAEA has reported several times that there’s no evidence that Iran’s building a nuke and Israel was completely against the US-Iran deal. To this day they’re still lobbying here and pushing for a war that the world clearly doesn’t want.

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07-07-2014 03:39 AM
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Wait, you think we should take anything the Iran’s say to heart? One of the more treacherous nations there are? Give me a break.

I won’t condone them calling for war though, but I can understand their anxiousness. Israel is all about self-preservation. They can’t risk much.

But we all know they aren’t going to actually start a war.

Edited 07-07-2014 03:40 AM by Raniero
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Raniero wrote: They’re so military because they’re literally surrounded from all sides by enemies who want them gone, on every border. They’d be idiotic not to be. And what do you mean by illegal nukes?

They have nukes and haven’t signed the IAEA contract whereas Iran has. This means no inspections for the Jews whereas Iran gets them regularly. JFK was strongly pressing against Israel’s development of nuclear weapons from the sources I’m reading.

Raniero wrote: It’s funny, because the Muslims who attack them would gloat about it too.

Yeah, well read what I posted earlier

Only reason they still exist is because of us having their dicks up our assholes

Edited 07-07-2014 03:42 AM by AIDB
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Raniero wrote: [Iran] One of the more treacherous nations there are?

Are you trolling?

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AIDB wrote: They have nukes and haven’t signed the IAEA contract whereas Iran has. This means no inspections for the Jews whereas Iran gets them regularly. JFK was strongly pressing against Israel’s development of nuclear weapons from the sources I’m reading.


JFK was a pacifist.

Yeah, well read what I posted earlier


So? They strike first and Israel hits back harder. It’s their own fault.

If a country attacks the USA and kills a 1,000, I’d expect the USA to hit back and take 1,000 for every person we lost.

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AIDB wrote:

Raniero wrote: [Iran] One of the more treacherous nations there are?

Are you trolling?


I don’t trust any of the middle eastern countries, especially since they’re so open about the hate they have for western countries.

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Raniero wrote:

AIDB wrote: They have nukes and haven’t signed the IAEA contract whereas Iran has. This means no inspections for the Jews whereas Iran gets them regularly. JFK was strongly pressing against Israel’s development of nuclear weapons from the sources I’m reading.


JFK was a pacifist.

Yeah, well read what I posted earlier


So? They strike first and Israel hits back harder. It’s their own fault.

Again

While it is widely reported that the resulting war eventually included five Arab armies, less well known is the fact that throughout this war Zionist forces outnumbered all Arab and Palestinian combatants combined &#150; often by a factor of two to three. Moreover, Arab armies did not invade Israel &#150; virtually all battles were fought on land that was to have been the Palestinian state.

Finally, it is significant to note that Arab armies entered the conflict only after Zionist forces had committed 16 massacres, including the grisly massacre of over 100 men, women, and children at Deir Yassin.



http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/new/israel-palestine-conflict/history-of-the-conflict/

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Raniero wrote:

AIDB wrote:

Raniero wrote: [Iran] One of the more treacherous nations there are?

Are you trolling?


I don’t trust any of the middle eastern countries, especially since they’re so open about the hate they have for western countries.

You mean after we funded Iraq to go to war with them after they had their revolution

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Iran knows they can’t take on the US, so regardless of how they feel about Israel they’d never straight-up attack them. No one would.

What’s important is the truth. The Israeli regime has been systematically taking control of central banks in the Middle East for the past decade and now an Israeli banker even runs the US federal reserve. All while trying to start a major world war. That’s some global-domineering shit.

Edited 07-07-2014 03:49 AM by Rich-616
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It’s a well known fact that it’s always been a constant back and forth between them.

The Arab countries are no less innocent than Israel. Take your bias glasses off please.

Edited 07-07-2014 03:49 AM by Raniero
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@Rich
And while I won’t condone that, I understand their sentiment. Israel is a small country literally surrounded by enemies that want them dead. People won’t ever call it war, but it’s basically been a war zone for decades now. They have a “it’s us or them” mentality. I agree, they are being overly aggressive and coming off as the bad guys in this.

AIDB wrote: You mean after we funded Iraq to go to war with them after they had their revolution


Nvm, misread that.

Edited 07-07-2014 03:53 AM by Raniero
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Raniero wrote: It’s a well known fact that it’s always been a constant back and forth between them.

The Arab countries are no less innocent than Israel. Take your bias glasses off please.

Never said they were innocent. Just telling you that they’re not as bad as you’re making them out to be. Like “treacherous nation” are you for real? Go look up the last war they had started and come say that again

Raniero wrote: The fact that they (Iraq) still have so much hostility towards us after that says a lot

We invaded them to get oil. Last time i checked over 8 million Iraqis have been killed during this period

Edited 07-07-2014 03:54 AM by AIDB
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AIDB wrote: Never said they were innocent. Just telling you that they’re not as bad as you’re making them out to be. Like “treacherous nation” are you for real? Go look up the last war they had started and come say that again


Yes, they’re dishonest nations and I wouldn’t step a single foot in their dirt road borders.

Giving billions (?) of aid to the Pakistanis only for them to have been hiding Bin Laden (assuming he was really killed) the entire time. Of course, they’ll deny that to their last breath.

Edited 07-07-2014 04:06 AM by Raniero
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Yeah, that’s true. It’s a very covert war so story’s like this are easy to manipulate one way or the other.

No one’s entirely innocent but you have to wonder what would drive a nation to do the kind of shit they’re doing as far as war and the banks go.

Edited 07-07-2014 03:58 AM by Rich-616
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AIDB wrote: We invaded them to get oil. Last time i checked over 8 million Iraqis have been killed during this period


Are you implying that America was massacring Iraqis during this period?

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Raniero wrote:

AIDB wrote: Never said they were innocent. Just telling you that they’re not as bad as you’re making them out to be. Like “treacherous nation” are you for real? Go look up the last war they had started and come say that again


Yes, they’re dishonest nations and I wouldn’t step a single foot in their dirt road borders.

Giving billions (?) of aid to the Pakistanis only for them to have been hiding Saddam (assuming he was really killed) the entire time. Of course, they’ll deny that to their last breath.


I wouldn’t step foot in any middle eastern country either with their current regimes

And Saddam was killed on tape. The fuck?

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