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[Reply] #61
01-11-2015 03:22 PM
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I guess there is a distinction just so it is clear what the person did and the other charges can be applied.

Here’s a news story about a guy that committed sexual extortion and other offences were added- such as rape.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/crime/2014/10/27/man-faces-rape-sexual-extortion-charges/18020633/

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Les Matadorss wrote: I guess there is a distinction just so it is clear what the person did and the other charges can be applied.



If that’s the case, then I find it to be a pretty meaningless disctinction.

Les Matadorss wrote: Here’s a news story about a guy that committed sexual extortion and other offences were added- such as rape.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/crime/2014/10/27/man-faces-rape-sexual-extortion-charges/18020633/



Yeah, this is jurisprudence alright.

Now whether that is a prevalent trend in the US or not, is the question.

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01-11-2015 03:31 PM
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I don’t think it’s without meaning, I’m sure there are reasons. It’s probably meant to distinguish certain scenarios.


I’m sure it is, here is another example:
http://www.mtv.com/news/1456149/mystikal-charged-with-rape-extortion/

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What I meant is that if it doesn’t distinguish and provide clear-cut difference between sexual extortion and rape, as both entail sex under some form of pressure/coercion/force, then really, in all cases that sexual exploitation could be applied, rape could already be applied, and vice-versa. That would make legislation of sexual exploitation entirely superfluous, only there to add extra charges.

That’s why I suppose that not all cases of sexual extortion may lead to rape charges. I suspect it might be because of that extortion/robbery distinction which makes one crime more heinous than the other.

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it is rape

the girls will be coerced against her will because you have a medium (force, death threats or otherwise, etc) to subdue her

in court this would get you trialed for blackmailing, harassing, raping and depending on the context even more


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JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote: it is rape

the girls will be coerced against her will because you have a medium (force, death threats or otherwise, etc) to subdue her

in court this would get you trialed for blackmailing, harassing, raping and depending on the context even more

Blackmail is like, exposing pictures of somebody crossdressing or something. How is that forcing? I would just let them put it out and deal with it.


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Caliborn wrote:

JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote: it is rape

the girls will be coerced against her will because you have a medium (force, death threats or otherwise, etc) to subdue her

in court this would get you trialed for blackmailing, harassing, raping and depending on the context even more

Blackmail is like, exposing pictures of somebody crossdressing or something. How is that forcing? I would just let them put it out and deal with it.

Careful.

In the near future simply asking a question like that will be a sex crime.

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01-11-2015 03:54 PM
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Wolfey wrote: What I meant is that if it doesn’t distinguish and provide clear-cut difference between sexual extortion and rape, as both entail sex under some form of pressure/coercion/force, then really, in all cases that sexual exploitation could be applied, rape could already be applied, and vice-versa. That would make legislation of sexual exploitation entirely superfluous, only there to add extra charges.

That’s why I suppose that not all cases of sexual extortion may lead to rape charges. I suspect it might be because of that extortion/robbery distinction which makes one crime more heinous than the other.


I agree with the latter but can’t imagine a case where one case wouldn’t apply to the other if there was sex involved.

Anyways good chat, I have to go. I hope Shob clears this up.

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JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote: it is rape

the girls will be coerced against her will because you have a medium (force, death threats or otherwise, etc) to subdue her

in court this would get you trialed for blackmailing, harassing, raping and depending on the context even more

^This it is pretty amazing some the shit that is considered rape. Married individuals can also get charged very easily.


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King Smiley wrote:

Caliborn wrote:

JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote: it is rape

the girls will be coerced against her will because you have a medium (force, death threats or otherwise, etc) to subdue her

in court this would get you trialed for blackmailing, harassing, raping and depending on the context even more

Blackmail is like, exposing pictures of somebody crossdressing or something. How is that forcing? I would just let them put it out and deal with it.

Careful.

In the near future simply asking a question like that will be a sex crime.

I meant if I were being blackmailed, I would just let the person send out the blackmail of me and deal with whatever follows it, rather than give in to whatever their demands are.


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Caliborn wrote:

JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote: it is rape

the girls will be coerced against her will because you have a medium (force, death threats or otherwise, etc) to subdue her

in court this would get you trialed for blackmailing, harassing, raping and depending on the context even more

Blackmail is like, exposing pictures of somebody crossdressing or something. How is that forcing? I would just let them put it out and deal with it.



i’ll explain nice and slow. The concept of blackmailing is that I(individual, group or organization) have information that You(same) don’t want to be leaked, be it because of social backlash, any form of competition, because it threatens your safety or the safety of any one related to you, etc.

Having that info i can use it as leverage to force you into giving me something you would consider “worthy” to keep my silence, irregardless of if i give you any evidence i have or not (thus there are cases of on-going blackmail)

in this case i would use a medium(in this case blackmail) to force you(as an individual) to have sex with me (which would be against your will, otherwise the medium would be unnecessary) and thus is constitutes as rape, and depending on whatever i had on you and how i got it i could be charged with some other fellonies


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JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote:

Caliborn wrote:

JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote: it is rape

the girls will be coerced against her will because you have a medium (force, death threats or otherwise, etc) to subdue her

in court this would get you trialed for blackmailing, harassing, raping and depending on the context even more

Blackmail is like, exposing pictures of somebody crossdressing or something. How is that forcing? I would just let them put it out and deal with it.



i’ll explain nice and slow. The concept of blackmailing is that I(individual, group or organization) have information that You(same) don’t want to be leaked, be it because of social backlash, any form of competition, because it threatens your safety or the safety of any one related to you, etc.

Having that info i can use it as leverage to force you into giving me something you would consider “worthy” to keep my silence, irregardless of if i give you any evidence i have or not (thus there are cases of on-going blackmail)

in this case i would use a medium(in this case blackmail) to force you(as an individual) to have sex with me (which would be against your will, otherwise the medium would be unnecessary) and thus is constitutes as rape, and depending on whatever i had on you and how i got it i could be charged with some other fellonies

So let’s say I decide not to. What happens?


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Caliborn wrote:

JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote:

Caliborn wrote:

JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote: it is rape

the girls will be coerced against her will because you have a medium (force, death threats or otherwise, etc) to subdue her

in court this would get you trialed for blackmailing, harassing, raping and depending on the context even more

Blackmail is like, exposing pictures of somebody crossdressing or something. How is that forcing? I would just let them put it out and deal with it.



i’ll explain nice and slow. The concept of blackmailing is that I(individual, group or organization) have information that You(same) don’t want to be leaked, be it because of social backlash, any form of competition, because it threatens your safety or the safety of any one related to you, etc.

Having that info i can use it as leverage to force you into giving me something you would consider “worthy” to keep my silence, irregardless of if i give you any evidence i have or not (thus there are cases of on-going blackmail)

in this case i would use a medium(in this case blackmail) to force you(as an individual) to have sex with me (which would be against your will, otherwise the medium would be unnecessary) and thus is constitutes as rape, and depending on whatever i had on you and how i got it i could be charged with some other fellonies

So let’s say I decide not to. What happens?

You don’t have a choice.

It’s rape.

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JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote:

Caliborn wrote:

JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote: it is rape

the girls will be coerced against her will because you have a medium (force, death threats or otherwise, etc) to subdue her

in court this would get you trialed for blackmailing, harassing, raping and depending on the context even more

Blackmail is like, exposing pictures of somebody crossdressing or something. How is that forcing? I would just let them put it out and deal with it.



i’ll explain nice and slow. The concept of blackmailing is that I(individual, group or organization) have information that You(same) don’t want to be leaked, be it because of social backlash, any form of competition, because it threatens your safety or the safety of any one related to you, etc.

Having that info i can use it as leverage to force you into giving me something you would consider “worthy” to keep my silence, irregardless of if i give you any evidence i have or not (thus there are cases of on-going blackmail)

in this case i would use a medium(in this case blackmail) to force you(as an individual) to have sex with me (which would be against your will, otherwise the medium would be unnecessary) and thus is constitutes as rape, and depending on whatever i had on you and how i got it i could be charged with some other fellonies

Except its not “forcing her”. She has the option of refusing, unlike in “real” rape where she is physically incapable of doing anything.

Its illegal, or should be, but not rape.


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King Smiley wrote:

Caliborn wrote:

JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote:

Caliborn wrote:

JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote: it is rape

the girls will be coerced against her will because you have a medium (force, death threats or otherwise, etc) to subdue her

in court this would get you trialed for blackmailing, harassing, raping and depending on the context even more

Blackmail is like, exposing pictures of somebody crossdressing or something. How is that forcing? I would just let them put it out and deal with it.



i’ll explain nice and slow. The concept of blackmailing is that I(individual, group or organization) have information that You(same) don’t want to be leaked, be it because of social backlash, any form of competition, because it threatens your safety or the safety of any one related to you, etc.

Having that info i can use it as leverage to force you into giving me something you would consider “worthy” to keep my silence, irregardless of if i give you any evidence i have or not (thus there are cases of on-going blackmail)

in this case i would use a medium(in this case blackmail) to force you(as an individual) to have sex with me (which would be against your will, otherwise the medium would be unnecessary) and thus is constitutes as rape, and depending on whatever i had on you and how i got it i could be charged with some other fellonies

So let’s say I decide not to. What happens?

You don’t have a choice.

It’s rape.

I do have a choice. I can let you leak the evidence and refuse to give you what you want.


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You’re all really, really stupid.

Rape: unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.

Key words: “Without the consent."

Even if you are being coerced into aforementioned sex, you are essentially giving consent. That is to say, you’re choosing to have sex with someone you don’t want to in exchange for, say, them not revealing you had an affair. So, no, it’s not actually rape. It’s just really fucking sleazy.


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Hey! I talked about that! >:~(

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Wolfey wrote: Hey! I talked about that! >:~(


Oh. My bad, lol. Mind you, I didn’t read the last few pages. I only posted that because this went past page one...


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Ozymandias wrote:

Wolfey wrote: Hey! I talked about that! >:~(


Oh. My bad, lol. Mind you, I didn’t read the last few pages. I only posted that because this went past page one...

I technically just said that in my post sad


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Caliborn wrote:

King Smiley wrote:

Caliborn wrote:

JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote:

Caliborn wrote:

JJBA banned spoderman forever wrote: it is rape

the girls will be coerced against her will because you have a medium (force, death threats or otherwise, etc) to subdue her

in court this would get you trialed for blackmailing, harassing, raping and depending on the context even more

Blackmail is like, exposing pictures of somebody crossdressing or something. How is that forcing? I would just let them put it out and deal with it.



i’ll explain nice and slow. The concept of blackmailing is that I(individual, group or organization) have information that You(same) don’t want to be leaked, be it because of social backlash, any form of competition, because it threatens your safety or the safety of any one related to you, etc.

Having that info i can use it as leverage to force you into giving me something you would consider “worthy” to keep my silence, irregardless of if i give you any evidence i have or not (thus there are cases of on-going blackmail)

in this case i would use a medium(in this case blackmail) to force you(as an individual) to have sex with me (which would be against your will, otherwise the medium would be unnecessary) and thus is constitutes as rape, and depending on whatever i had on you and how i got it i could be charged with some other fellonies

So let’s say I decide not to. What happens?

You don’t have a choice.

It’s rape.

I do have a choice. I can let you leak the evidence and refuse to give you what you want.

No you don’t.

My mystery pics/evidence/documents are forcefully holding and gagging you with a gun to the head while you pogo. . .even though you don’t want to.

Rape.

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