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I can see that- because from my best intrepretation, Sonic and Shadow are pretty much dead Even.


>_>

Guess this shows how much Silver threw a monkey wrench into things- and yea, you probably are right on that being a plot device. More evidence towards what i’ve always said about the other chars jobbing/Silver getting plot power to wreck everyone (like that 2nd fight with Sonic)

Lol, not to mention the massively shrunken Chaos Blast, etc,etc.. Shadow didn’t cause an imbalance when he was introduced really, even with his Chaos abilities(due to his spinning techniques and his usage of speed like sonic)

but Silver shows up...wham bam. He’s freezing people on the spot, chucking you across the map- and you can’t do anything about it because his only weakness is that he can’t affect energy and such. And he cheap shots everyone- except Shadow who doesn’t mess around. And look at Silver’s extreme angry reaction to Shadow during that fight xD..

I suppose that was what happens when game mechanics are altered to support a new character- not that the mechanics of 06 were great.


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Tippership Commander wrote: I can see that- because from my best intrepretation, Sonic and Shadow are pretty much dead Even.



I think so too, though generations Sonic will be quick in surpassing him.

Tippership Commander wrote: Guess this shows how much Silver threw a monkey wrench into things- and yea, you probably are right on that being a plot device. More evidence towards what i&#146;ve always said about the other chars jobbing/Silver getting plot power to wreck everyone (like that 2nd fight with Sonic)

Lol, not to mention the massively shrunken Chaos Blast, etc,etc.. Shadow didn&#146;t cause an imbalance when he was introduced really, even with his Chaos abilities(due to his spinning techniques and his usage of speed like sonic)

but Silver shows up...wham bam. He&#146;s freezing people on the spot, chucking you across the map- and you can&#146;t do anything about it because his only weakness is that he can&#146;t affect energy and such. And he cheap shots everyone- except Shadow who doesn&#146;t mess around. And look at Silver&#146;s extreme angry reaction to Shadow during that fight xD..

I suppose that was what happens when game mechanics are altered to support a new character- not that the mechanics of 06 were great.



It’s best to ignore game mechanics and just look at cutscenes, tbh. Cutscenes had Silver losing to Sonic, and - as you said - had him angry at Shadow.

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Tippership Commander wrote: I can see that- because from my best intrepretation, Sonic and Shadow are pretty much dead Even.


>_>

Guess this shows how much Silver threw a monkey wrench into things- and yea, you probably are right on that being a plot device. More evidence towards what i’ve always said about the other chars jobbing/Silver getting plot power to wreck everyone (like that 2nd fight with Sonic)

Lol, not to mention the massively shrunken Chaos Blast, etc,etc.. Shadow didn’t cause an imbalance when he was introduced really, even with his Chaos abilities(due to his spinning techniques and his usage of speed like sonic)

but Silver shows up...wham bam. He’s freezing people on the spot, chucking you across the map- and you can’t do anything about it because his only weakness is that he can’t affect energy and such. And he cheap shots everyone- except Shadow who doesn’t mess around. And look at Silver’s extreme angry reaction to Shadow during that fight xD..

I suppose that was what happens when game mechanics are altered to support a new character- not that the mechanics of 06 were great.



LOL Tippership. That post was hilarious.

Honestly Silver wouldn’t be that broken if you could actually escape from his PK. Would he be powerful? Oh HELL YES. But not broken.


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Well, Silver chep-shotted Sonic because Sonic went to see if the dude was ok. Wasn’t so much arrogance as “good guy stupidity” I guess.

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Wolfenstein wrote: Well, Silver chep-shotted Sonic because Sonic went to see if the dude was ok. Wasn’t so much arrogance as “good guy stupidity” I guess.



That is very true. One good hard hit can SEVERELY turn the tide of battle.

Like in the Sonic X anime. In Sonic and Shadow’s first long fight Shadow had an edge, but it was still rather close.

Flash forward to season 3. Shadow hit Sonic dead on with a Chaos Spear and then proceeds to Two-Shot him.


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Mephiles did It to Shadow as well when he lost.

That stuff happens alot in Sonic ._.

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Oh God, Silver is in Generations?

Looks like I won’t be buying this after all. Too bad, it was looking cool. =/

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Cid wrote: Oh God, Silver is in Generations?

Looks like I won’t be buying this after all. Too bad, it was looking cool. =/



I know. Major bummer.

However, I’ll enjoy kicking his shit in like I did in 06(the only enjoyable part of that shit).

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Omniwhatever wrote:

Tippership Commander wrote: I can see that- because from my best intrepretation, Sonic and Shadow are pretty much dead Even.


>_>

Guess this shows how much Silver threw a monkey wrench into things- and yea, you probably are right on that being a plot device. More evidence towards what i’ve always said about the other chars jobbing/Silver getting plot power to wreck everyone (like that 2nd fight with Sonic)

Lol, not to mention the massively shrunken Chaos Blast, etc,etc.. Shadow didn’t cause an imbalance when he was introduced really, even with his Chaos abilities(due to his spinning techniques and his usage of speed like sonic)

but Silver shows up...wham bam. He’s freezing people on the spot, chucking you across the map- and you can’t do anything about it because his only weakness is that he can’t affect energy and such. And he cheap shots everyone- except Shadow who doesn’t mess around. And look at Silver’s extreme angry reaction to Shadow during that fight xD..

I suppose that was what happens when game mechanics are altered to support a new character- not that the mechanics of 06 were great.



LOL Tippership. That post was hilarious.

Honestly Silver wouldn’t be that broken if you could actually escape from his PK. Would he be powerful? Oh HELL YES. But not broken.



See, the original idea on MVc was that Amy was broken, from SA2B’s 2 p Mode.

HELLO
Have you fought Silver?

ALl of us have nightmares(lol) of the wordd
“HOW BOUT THIS!"
“TAKE THIS”

So, Sonic’s beaten Silver in a friendly fight. He goes to help Silver up. Silver like “Okay, this is how I roll” and sues his PK and throws Sonic back.Then he keeps using PK on Sonic and Sonic can’t do anything -and Silver’s throwing him around the block, about to splat him against the ground. Amy got in the way, and Silver didn’t decide to PK smash her too(would have been funny,as Sonic wouuld have stopped holding back and started taking it to town on silver)

he gets into an argument with Amy then goes and sulks with Blaze, who’s still ...muttering"That Blue Hedgehog”, timeline be damned of Sonic Rush xD


Silver decides"OKAY, lets go on a murdering spree anyway, because Mephiles Says SO”

Sonic and Shadow both visit Eggman, then Eggman steals Elise, Sonic rescues her from a freefall- suddenly he dodges (reaction time guys) a CHEAP shot energy blast(Silver had extremely weak slow energy orbs in the cutscenes sometimes)- and then uses his speed to dodge more PK- then Silver just P’K's the area where Sonic is, he’s caught, Elise is shocked, Silver’s about to PK slam Sonic to the death when Shadow drops in and gets in between them. Silver thinks “HURR DURR who’s this-Mephilees? Huh?" And releases Sonic. Shadow nods at Sonic who gets away(Eggman just snatched Elise again , gotta go rescue her) ,

then announces his name. Silver raises his fists and thinks"It’s GO TIME!"

What happens? Depends on who you play from- if you play from Shadow’s angle, Silver PK smashes you to the doom- however, Silver get’s owned any time you use any sort of Chaos Power or energy attack- and can’t keep up(what did you expect??????)
If you play as Silver, You try to chuck stuff at Shadow, and can sorta Grab hin with PK if you’re close enough, but it doesn’t hold- you can’t throw him- and you really don’t want to do this whne he’s Chaos Boosting, as his Chaos Blast-can’t be held by PK, and those Chaos Spears will HURT.

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after all that Jazz, Silver and Shadow are staring down each other breathing heavily- but Silver can’t stand it, he’s getting his @$$ kicked. He Roars in rage and is now reduced to chucking punches at Shadow- who decides to use CC , time-slow variant(a weak one) ,and flips and kicks Silver in the back of the head-CC over, Silver get’s up, gives Shadow a murderous look, “YOUUUUUUUU!!" ....
Shadow notes how Silver can’t “break free”- which is OPPOSITE what happens, since Silver normally has you in a death grip due to PK

Then he out of desperation , mimics Shadow, pulls out his own Emerald, and attempts a Chaos Control at the same time Shadow does- Shadow’s a bit surprised Silver had to resort to that, Silver go on about how he won’t let anyone get in his way no matter what...yea

Overall, Silver...is from the core technically not a bad character- but he goes around smashing stuff, on a rampage hunting Sonic all game, after Meph sends him to kill Sonic so Silver’s world actually happens- Blaze questions some things, but Silver’s too mad/brash- he finds Sonic, tries to kill him, Amy convinces him otherwise- then he on his own, after talking with Blaze"OKAY, I’m gonna kill him!"
and then tries again, regardless of any friendly fire(he’d have killed Elise too if Sonic hadn’t dodged), then gets put in his place bu Shadow - and LOSES it. Shadow sure isn’t mad- but then again ,he was never that mad in all his dead even fights with Sonic. Not even during the faker debacle.

Silver has tantrums when things don’t go his way- and he’s not the guy to be around due to his PK.
psychokinetic? Why didn’t they say telekinetic? Maybe he wa a little Psycho after all xD (Blaze even called him out on his immaturity at the end of Silver’s story)

Lol, Silver ROLLS by PK’ing you from behing your back ,and when you help him up he helps you into the nearest WALL or splat on the ground, because that’s how Silver Rolls xD

LOL Tippership. That post was hilarious.


Lol, don’t get me started on Silver xD I’d pick on him all day


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WHY DO THEY HAVE TO ADD THE SHITTY CAST TO EVERYTHING =[

I loved the demo so much ... and now they have killed my hopes and dreams yet again.


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Cid wrote: Oh God, Silver is in Generations?

Looks like I won’t be buying this after all. Too bad, it was looking cool. =/

Don’t worry, you only have to fight him, not play as him






:everyone gives Tipper a ghastly look:
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.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



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Idea: Can I make this the general Sonic discussion thread? For like, every Sonic media?

Edited 10-17-2011 06:06 PM by Wolfey
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Wolfenstein wrote: Idea: Can I make this the general Sonic discussion thread? For like, every Sonic media?



Dude go for it!

Can I be a topic mod for it? Since I made it?


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Omniwhatever wrote:

Wolfenstein wrote: Idea: Can I make this the general Sonic discussion thread? For like, every Sonic media?



Dude go for it!

Can I be a topic mod for it? Since I made it?



I will change the name.

And yes you can. Simply ask an Admi(mods don’t have that kind of power).

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Wolfenstein wrote:

Omniwhatever wrote:

Wolfenstein wrote: Idea: Can I make this the general Sonic discussion thread? For like, every Sonic media?



Dude go for it!

Can I be a topic mod for it? Since I made it?



I will change the name.

And yes you can. Simply ask an Admi(mods don’t have that kind of power).



Ok.

Anyway, on topic. Which aspect of Sonic Generations are you guys MOST looking forward too?


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Beating the shit out if things with Sonic ~_~

Actually, finally getting more Sonic/Tails fun.

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Wolfenstein wrote: Beating the shit out if things with Sonic ~_~

Actually, finally getting more Sonic/Tails fun.



Isn’t that always such fun? XD

Yeah, that will be nice. Recently Sonic and Tails haven’t gotten much time and all. With Tails being sidelined quite a lot. Recently that seems to have changed grin


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Anyway, I’ve read fleetway recently.

By the gods, It’s AWESOME.

It’s plot and story-telling is 10000000000x better than Archie’s(which currently sucks) or the games.

Especially the new one, I encourage you all to read It.

It’s a much darker, edgy and introverted story than the games or Archie.

Examines Sonic’s personality, motives, charater and decisons to a tee. While still exploring the side characters.

Not very good feat-wise(though Sonic does have one infinite speed feat like Archie - when going all-out).

Seriously, It’s amazing.

http://www.stconline.co.uk/

^^Those are the newer ones, don’t start on the newest or you’ll miss the story, if anyone does read, start with that first one in the database or better, with the first issue if you can find it online.

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Wolfenstein wrote: Anyway, I’ve read fleetway recently.

By the gods, It’s AWESOME.

It’s plot and story-telling is 10000000000x better than Archie’s(which currently sucks) or the games.

Especially the new one, I encourage you all to read It.

It’s a much darker, edgy and introverted story than the games or Archie.

Examines Sonic’s personality, motives, charater and decisons to a tee. While still exploring the side characters.

Not very good feat-wise(though Sonic does have one infinite speed feat like Archie - when going all-out).

Seriously, It’s amazing.

http://www.stconline.co.uk/

^^Those are the newer ones, don’t start on the newest or you’ll miss the story, if anyone does read, start with that first one in the database or better, with the first issue if you can find it online.



I’ve heard about the UK Fleet way comic. Looks very good. Definitely a very different take on the characters, but looks interesting.

Ima have to check it out sometime.


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Actually I kinda take the feat thing back.

That Sonic spin-dashed straight through Megatal, which is akin to adamantium and has stated to be nigh-indistructible, I think It was actually stated It had planet-ripping durability somewhere.

Plus, he has that speed feat as well.

Edited 10-17-2011 06:51 PM by Wolfey

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