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Lord Lucifer Morningstar wrote: I think it’s pretty silly to limit it tbh.



It’s to promote actual content. The one swear word per line limit isn’t terribly fucking difficult to do, anyway. All you have to do is open a reply cunt-box and you’ll have an idea of how much is too much. It does take a fucking lot to actually get to the point that it’s terribly excessive. I mean, shit, this post is technically pulling it off in the rules, them numeric bastards.

Being serious, Bjarne had it in the original rule set, so I frankly refuse to eliminate the rule entirely. I can bump up the ratio if people prefer, but I’m keeping a limit of some type.


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Reason why limiting swearing is silly:

People are usually not going to swear all that much anyway. And I find it hard to believe the ones who would do that would be taken seriously. It basically corrects itself. Let’s say Sheko locks some topic. The OP of that topic makes a thread saying something like: “You fucking shithead Sheko! You’re a fucking cocksucking bitch. I don’t give a damn if you’re a fucking mod(Cock sucking faggot gay lord of fag town). You’re a fucking joke and a bitch ass at that."

Could you really imagine someone taking that seriously? Like, okay I guess it could be excessive flaming or something but my point is that the swearing itself shouldn’t be limited. Why? It’s not a problem. There is not a bunch of members using it for every other word(And if there are they are likely not even taken seriously and are just laughed at)

Problem corrects itself.

Edit: Well, on my screen that was 3 swears on one line Ty :P Anyway, if it was in Bjarne’s original rules I must have forgot haha.

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-Tyreaus- wrote:

Lord Lucifer Morningstar wrote: I think it’s pretty silly to limit it tbh.



It’s to promote actual content. The one swear word per line limit isn’t terribly fucking difficult to do, anyway. All you have to do is open a reply cunt-box and you’ll have an idea of how much is too much. It does take a fucking lot to actually get to the point that it’s terribly excessive. I mean, shit, this post is technically pulling it off in the rules, them numeric bastards.

Being serious, Bjarne had it in the original rule set, so I frankly refuse to eliminate the rule entirely. I can bump up the ratio if people prefer, but I’m keeping a limit of some type.



Yeah, that’s how I feel about swearing too. Not that I’m against it, I just don’t like excessive use of it.


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Lord Lucifer Morningstar wrote:

ThatGuyWhoLikesVideoGames wrote: I love rule no 5! For some reason, I think it’s about time that some site limited the amount of times you use swear words. because after a while, it becomes repetitive when used, and soon just becomes mindless rambling. I think swearing should only be used to emphasize a point, and not just be used at utter random.


I think it’s pretty silly to limit it tbh.

@GK: Flirting with minors is banned. Flirting with someone who tells you to stop is banned. Not flirting in general. So again, what’s wrong with gay flirting? And why did you have to make a distinction between it and “normal” flirting?



What wrong with flirting with someone younger than you? What exactly is “of age” sh**. Girls losing their virginities at 9. Questions no one can answer If it was me I would keep flirting strictly to RP. idec anymore im out. Gay flirting sub cat of flirting. Gay = Same Sex. Gay flirting happens more so obviously I pointed it out to use direction. Take that how you will sir


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-Tyreaus- wrote: I am making this final:

I have added a note in the “seizure picture” rule that forbids the examples Athena used, i.e. “psychedelic pictures”, in the same manner that brightly flashing pictures are forbidden without sufficient warnings. I cannot extend the rule into areas such as optical illusions as some may cause eye strain and others may not.

@ Kenpachi: sexual flirting between people of any sexual orientation is permissible so long as both are of age. If there’s an issue between those two flirting, it might be of age, but it most certainly is not nor will ever be orientation.



Sorry Ty, I HAD to comment on this one. Sexual flirting between any ages is not tolerated on the site. We have always banned people telling each other that they want to suck ___ ... or 'finger' someone, etc. sorry for being so blunt, but that really cannot be permitted even between adults, as there are children and underage people on the site. Minor flirting like “I think Ty is cute or hot” is okay between adults, but not sexual flirtation.


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Lord Lucifer Morningstar wrote: Edit: Well, on my screen that was 3 swears on one line Ty :P Anyway, if it was in Bjarne’s original rules I must have forgot haha.



I haven’t checked on my desktop but on my laptop (running 1366x768) it was exactly one swear per line, except for the first. It’s not one swear per line in the thread itself, but one swear per line in the reply box (since, to the best of my knowledge, the minimum size of the reply box is the same across browsers, whereas the text displayed per line in a post differs. Again, haven’t checked on the desktop. >< )


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TiggerLover wrote:

-Tyreaus- wrote: I am making this final:

I have added a note in the “seizure picture” rule that forbids the examples Athena used, i.e. “psychedelic pictures”, in the same manner that brightly flashing pictures are forbidden without sufficient warnings. I cannot extend the rule into areas such as optical illusions as some may cause eye strain and others may not.

@ Kenpachi: sexual flirting between people of any sexual orientation is permissible so long as both are of age. If there’s an issue between those two flirting, it might be of age, but it most certainly is not nor will ever be orientation.



Sorry Ty, I HAD to comment on this one. Sexual flirting between any ages is not tolerated on the site. We have always banned people telling each other that they want to suck ___ ... or 'finger' someone, etc. sorry for being so blunt, but that really cannot be permitted even between adults, as there are children and underage people on the site. Minor flirting like “I think Ty is cute or hot” is okay between adults, but not sexual flirtation.


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Haha well I’m on 1920x1080 so I guess that would make the difference.

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TiggerLover wrote:

-Tyreaus- wrote: I am making this final:

I have added a note in the “seizure picture” rule that forbids the examples Athena used, i.e. “psychedelic pictures”, in the same manner that brightly flashing pictures are forbidden without sufficient warnings. I cannot extend the rule into areas such as optical illusions as some may cause eye strain and others may not.

@ Kenpachi: sexual flirting between people of any sexual orientation is permissible so long as both are of age. If there’s an issue between those two flirting, it might be of age, but it most certainly is not nor will ever be orientation.



Sorry Ty, I HAD to comment on this one. Sexual flirting between any ages is not tolerated on the site. We have always banned people telling each other that they want to suck ___ ... or 'finger' someone, etc. sorry for being so blunt, but that really cannot be permitted even between adults, as there are children and underage people on the site. Minor flirting like “I think Ty is cute or hot” is okay between adults, but not sexual flirtation.



I set it at that because a lot of the content of the site aside from the flirting is largely directed toward adults. The swearing and flaming and so on and so forth. There was also the idea that “heavy” or “blunt” flirting could (and often would) fall under explicit content rules, such as the sort of examples you posted. It becomes an issue of what constitutes “OK” flirting and what constitutes “TMI” flirting.


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TiggerLover wrote:

-Tyreaus- wrote: I am making this final:

I have added a note in the “seizure picture” rule that forbids the examples Athena used, i.e. “psychedelic pictures”, in the same manner that brightly flashing pictures are forbidden without sufficient warnings. I cannot extend the rule into areas such as optical illusions as some may cause eye strain and others may not.

@ Kenpachi: sexual flirting between people of any sexual orientation is permissible so long as both are of age. If there’s an issue between those two flirting, it might be of age, but it most certainly is not nor will ever be orientation.



Sorry Ty, I HAD to comment on this one. Sexual flirting between any ages is not tolerated on the site. We have always banned people telling each other that they want to suck ___ ... or 'finger' someone, etc. sorry for being so blunt, but that really cannot be permitted even between adults, as there are children and underage people on the site. Minor flirting like “I think Ty is cute or hot” is okay between adults, but not sexual flirtation.

Do you always have something with spikes up your ass?

Stop being so anal.


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Also, you act like this shit isn’t talked about in school.

Every minor here has heard and talked about shit like fingering, blowjobs, and other shit a thousand times.


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Long Tall Sally wrote: Also, you act like this shit isn’t talked about in school.

Every minor here has heard and talked about shit like fingering, blowjobs, and other shit a thousand times.



Whether or not this is true, allowing the posting of sexual advancements on this site would make this place extremely unprofessional. It gets tiring reading all the profanity, all the insults and cruel comments..we don’t want to add sexual comments to that.


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-Tyreaus- wrote:

TiggerLover wrote:

-Tyreaus- wrote: I am making this final:

I have added a note in the “seizure picture” rule that forbids the examples Athena used, i.e. “psychedelic pictures”, in the same manner that brightly flashing pictures are forbidden without sufficient warnings. I cannot extend the rule into areas such as optical illusions as some may cause eye strain and others may not.

@ Kenpachi: sexual flirting between people of any sexual orientation is permissible so long as both are of age. If there’s an issue between those two flirting, it might be of age, but it most certainly is not nor will ever be orientation.



Sorry Ty, I HAD to comment on this one. Sexual flirting between any ages is not tolerated on the site. We have always banned people telling each other that they want to suck ___ ... or 'finger' someone, etc. sorry for being so blunt, but that really cannot be permitted even between adults, as there are children and underage people on the site. Minor flirting like “I think Ty is cute or hot” is okay between adults, but not sexual flirtation.



I set it at that because a lot of the content of the site aside from the flirting is largely directed toward adults. The swearing and flaming and so on and so forth. There was also the idea that “heavy” or “blunt” flirting could (and often would) fall under explicit content rules, such as the sort of examples you posted. It becomes an issue of what constitutes “OK” flirting and what constitutes “TMI” flirting.



Well, if it falls under explicit rules, that is fine, but we know that Bjarne had put that rule there for a reason, something about being threatened with legal action a while back. As long as it is not permitted on the site, that is what matters.

Besides, as I mentioned in my PM to you, the rules have to be approved by Bjarne before we make them official in any case. He may want to make changes himself.


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Athena wrote:

Long Tall Sally wrote: Also, you act like this shit isn’t talked about in school.

Every minor here has heard and talked about shit like fingering, blowjobs, and other shit a thousand times.



Whether or not this is true, allowing the posting of sexual advancements on this site would make this place extremely unprofessional. It gets tiring reading all the profanity, all the insults and cruel comments..we don’t want to add sexual comments to that.

I’ve got some bad news for you.

This site’s BEEN unprofessional for years.


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Long Tall Sally wrote: Every minor here has heard and talked about shit like fingering, blowjobs, and other shit a thousand times.


That’s because the moderation on this backwater site is a joke.

>Tigger and Co. get anal about minors engaging in “e-sex” with other minors
>Tigger and Co. don’t care about Fure’s degenerate ass having a jizz-covered dinosaur as his avatar for years on end
>Profit!!


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Long Tall Sally wrote:

Athena wrote:

Long Tall Sally wrote: Also, you act like this shit isn’t talked about in school.

Every minor here has heard and talked about shit like fingering, blowjobs, and other shit a thousand times.



Whether or not this is true, allowing the posting of sexual advancements on this site would make this place extremely unprofessional. It gets tiring reading all the profanity, all the insults and cruel comments..we don’t want to add sexual comments to that.

I’ve got some bad news for you.

This site’s BEEN unprofessional for years.



Yes it most certainly has been and I don’t expect it to be professional anytime soon. That doesn’t mean we should just have a free for all though. Dive into anarchy and lose the quality members.


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5 and 26 are too police-state. Everything else seems fine.

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TiggerLover wrote: Well, if it falls under explicit rules, that is fine, but we know that Bjarne had put that rule there for a reason, something about being threatened with legal action a while back. As long as it is not permitted on the site, that is what matters.



That’s largely what the intent was: the pornography/explicit content rules cover severely sexual flirting, while the flirting rule covers unwanted flirting and flirting between minors. It keeps more innocent flirting still acceptable (and why should that be restricted?) and, IMO, makes it more clear what types of things are acceptable - otherwise it becomes a question of “what is flirting and what isn’t?" rather than “what is pornographic and what isn’t?" Removing subjectivity is the main idea.

Besides, as I mentioned in my PM to you, the rules have to be approved by Bjarne before we make them official in any case. He may want to make changes himself.



Like I said in the PM, I can’t and really don’t want to sit on my ass for months on end waiting for Bjarne to approve of this - or disapprove of it. As it is, he’s working on aesthetic redesigns of the site and moving the Vs. forum to another sub-section. Amid that and his work, trying to drag him here to read all the rules and approve of them (or veto them or suggest changes etc.) isn’t exactly instantaneous, and that’s been part of the problem in this site for a while now.

Call me tyrannical or whatever, but he’s not around often enough to take the political ropes. If he doesn’t like the rules, he has the full ability to veto them and, as the webmaster, he knows that. But I, frankly, won’t be sitting around waiting for him to approve every little political venture I might have during my (likely brief) time as admin. I love the guy and I love what he does for the site, but it’s too big of an obstacle, not only for the things he wants to do for the site, but the things I want to do for the site.


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Based Sheko wrote: 5 and 26 are too police-state. Everything else seems fine.



5 just has the “1 swear per line” concept to sort of act as a quantifiable measure of “how much is too much”. I’ve offered previously to up this ratio, but it’s mostly put in for a mutually understandable measure between admins and members (that way, the members can understand the admins aren’t just being stuck up - it’s a definable rule the members can measure themselves). There’s typically more of an emphasis on that one to warn people about swearing and a much smaller emphasis on banning (note how the bans are in the hour ranges).

26 is sort of on the same principle of 5 regarding leniency. At the same time, blatantly refusing to follow the rules after being warned turns the offender from someone who simply didn’t know or remember the rule to someone who’s blatantly disobeying it. As for the insulting an admin half of the deal, attacking police is a real-life law, and that just acts as a Moviecodec parallel.

EDIT: The code of conduct will define what types of actions are and aren’t permissible in terms of Rule 26, so it will effectively elaborate on that rule. That’s why this hasn’t been made official.


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TiggerLover wrote: Besides, as I mentioned in my PM to you, the rules have to be approved by Bjarne before we make them official in any case. He may want to make changes himself.



Nah, he isn’t a member of the site. He just owns it, this should be a democracy. He isn’t active enough to be relied on.

When he does come around, if he doesn’t like it -- fine. But for now, I think this should be implanted with all the active admins approvals.


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